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necrosnoop110 06-26-05, 11:04 AM	So with the Ur-Priest PrC you can have access to regular 9th level Cleric spells at 14th level. Q: Is there a way to have access to regular 9th level Wiz/Sor spells at 14th level? Thanks, Necro Edit: Ur-Priest grants 9th level spells at 14th level
Caelic 06-26-05, 11:17 AM	Slight correction: with Ur-Priest, you can have access to ninth level spells at 14th level. (XXX5/UrP9) Thus far, there's no similarly-unbalanced Arcane class. ;)
necrosnoop110 06-26-05, 11:20 AM	Slight correction: with Ur-Priest, you can have access to ninth level spells at 14th level. (XXX5/UrP9) Thus far, there's no similarly-unbalanced Arcane class. ;) You're right :D So what is the fastest full progression Wiz/Sor build? Anything faster than full Wiz/Sor?
lonewolf 06-26-05, 11:25 AM	I think that beside the usual Illithid Savant Abuse, there is no faster way to get lvl9 arcane spells early. Nar Demonbinder gets lvl8 spells pretty fast, but the spell selection is VERY weak.
necrosnoop110 06-26-05, 11:27 AM	OT: How were the designers ever thinking that Ur-Priest was balanced?
Caelic 06-26-05, 12:55 PM	Who ever said that the designers were going for "balanced?" If everything was "balanced," this board wouldn't exist, and people wouldn't rush out to buy the newest book with the crunchiest prestige classes every couple of months. That said, I think the logic of the Ur-Priest went something like, 1. "Well, it's mainly for NPCs, and we stipulate that in the BoVD so it's okay." 2. "Uhm...the Ur-Priest's the most popular part of the BoVD." 3. "Okay, then, stick it in Complete Divine to boost sales."
necrosnoop110 06-26-05, 02:10 PM	That said, I think the logic of the Ur-Priest went something like, 1. "Well, it's mainly for NPCs, and we stipulate that in the BoVD so it's okay." 2. "Uhm...the Ur-Priest's the most popular part of the BoVD." 3. "Okay, then, stick it in Complete Divine to boost sales." Yeah I can see that, that sounds about right. Peace, Necro
catharz 06-26-05, 02:30 PM	Beholder Mage + PAO, Sha'ir/MT - Customer Service.
Dark_and_Stormy 06-26-05, 10:29 PM	Wondered how long it would take for Catharz to put his Sha'ir build on there. 3hrs, 26 minutes. Glad to see you've not lost it yet, my good man. BTW, where was Sha'ir again? I was looking for it the other day... I REALLY like the Beholder Mage path. Plus, you're a Beholder. Bonus points for being a big bad boy.
slade_caizer 06-26-05, 10:36 PM	How quickly can one complete the Sublime Chord? I seem to remember it gives 9th level spells...or I thought it did. I'm probably thinking of something else.
Mist of Shadows 06-27-05, 12:37 AM	Well it has requirements such as knowledge arcana 13 and listen 13 meaning that you can't get into it before level 11 sadly otherwise yes it has 9th level spells
beaver1024 06-27-05, 12:58 AM	OT: How were the designers ever thinking that Ur-Priest was balanced? This is a cleric prestige class. It's ok for clerics to be overpowered because hardly anyone plays them. :rolleyes:
Zardnaar 06-27-05, 01:20 AM	The UR Priest also isn't that good. If you stasrt at higher levels and use the feat practised spellcaster hoever....