Arcane Hierophant help [Archive] - Wizards Community

Arcane Hierophant help [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Eikcuf
07-15-05, 03:12 PM This build is locked at Aasimar Drd2 Sor3 Drd1 Sor1 AcHie10 MT3
with a 40pt buy after age and race Str8 Dex8 Con10 Int16 Wis21 Cha18

The aasimar LA is free (don't ask)
I can use flaws,and I'll most likely take practiced caster(x2) In exchange for the two flaws. As for the other feats Alternitive spell, natural spell and thats all I could think of, so I would like help picking the other feats.

Edit: I'v tried using Googles search and got nowhere
DavidWL
07-19-05, 01:50 AM Well, I'd like to help, but I'm not too familiar.

Still, Exalted Wildshape is quite nice. Possibly: Energy Substitution-Sonic.

Various metamagic feats can be quite useful (Persistent and Chain come to mind).

What do you want to accomplish?

Have you looked at the relavent "guides"? (example: The Druid handbook (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=165279&page=1&pp=50))
Eikcuf
07-19-05, 04:10 PM Still, Exalted Wildshape is quite nice. Yes it would, but its a non Exalted Campain. Possibly: Energy Substitution-Sonic.
Why sonic Vrs any other energy?
Various metamagic feats can be quite useful (Persistent and Chain come to mind).
Both of those MetaMagic feats are very pricy spell level wise, are the any spicfic spells that warrent them?
What do you want to accomplish? spell caster

Have you looked at the relavent "guides"? (example: The Druid handbook (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=165279&page=1&pp=50)) yes but that is no good as it's 3.0ish
DavidWL
07-19-05, 10:52 PM Why sonic Vrs any other energy?
Because very few monsters have resistance to sonic. Resistance to Fire, Electricity, Cold, etc. is relatively common, so later on, when you blast a bad guy, you can change the blast to sonic so that it can get though his Energy Resistance.

Both of those MetaMagic feats are very pricy spell level wise, are the any spicfic spells that warrent them?

There is a page floating around on the board about useful spells you can make persistent (ah, it's here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=136060)). It is a list for clerics, but many are on the druid list. Not so useful earlier on, but later it can be. While it isn't vital, it certainly can be convenient not to have to spend time casting spells when in combat (especially if surprised).

I like chain because it is great for whole-party buffs. Similarly with effecting a large group of enemies. Also, it really isn't *that* high level.

Typically people want to know:
1) What sources you can use. (Example: 3.0 *only*. Core books + Sword and Fist, Masters of the Wild, Song and Silence, Tome and Blood). So, define, 3.0ish -- Arcane Heirophant is 3.5

2) What you want to accomplish. (Example: I want to be a Wizard/Druid who can wade into combat while wildshaped. I want to be a reasonably good unitilty and healing caster. Also, I want a cool and powerful animal companion).
Eikcuf
07-21-05, 03:48 PM I can use any thing not 3.0
Im the only caster let alone devine with spontainous healer im "as good" as a cleric. So party roll is blaster, buffer, healer.
DavidWL
07-21-05, 11:47 PM Ah. Ok.

Also, "Extraordinary concentration" from CAdv comes to mind. Really cool feat.
20goingon1232
07-22-05, 12:27 AM Try Drd3/Wiz3/MT2/AH10/MT2

This will give you 9th level spells in both Drd and Wiz. For Wiz, you might want to become a Diviner and drop Necromancy (a Druid casting most of the Necro spells is just begging for your DM to take your Druid abilities away from you). Plus a bit of extra stuff from AH.

For this build, it is better to go with Tiefling and put your stats into Int, Wis, Dex and Con, probably in that order. Your ancestor was an Erynes instead of an angel. I'd take dual Practiced Spellcaster, Spell Penetration, Greater Spell Penetration, Spell Focus (Ench), Spell Focus (Trans) and maybe Improved Initiative (or skill focus (Spellcraft) for Archmage).

You might also want to go a couple of levels of Archmage for Shape Spells and Mastery of Elements, but it will hurt your Drd spellcasting a bit.

Best part about this build is that you can go all the way to level 46 with only -3 to your caster progression (none if you burn 2 feats on PS).
eRaz0r
07-29-05, 01:50 PM I know this is an aside - but Epic MT is 1/2 caster progression instead of full. Unless they've errata'd it recently.
Sang-Drax
07-29-05, 03:25 PM Check out the 3.5 Druid Handbook under my sig.

Energy Substitution: Sonic is no longer available in 3.5.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Eikcuf 07-15-05, 03:12 PM	This build is locked at Aasimar Drd2 Sor3 Drd1 Sor1 AcHie10 MT3 with a 40pt buy after age and race Str8 Dex8 Con10 Int16 Wis21 Cha18 The aasimar LA is free (don't ask) I can use flaws,and I'll most likely take practiced caster(x2) In exchange for the two flaws. As for the other feats Alternitive spell, natural spell and thats all I could think of, so I would like help picking the other feats. Edit: I'v tried using Googles search and got nowhere
DavidWL 07-19-05, 01:50 AM	Well, I'd like to help, but I'm not too familiar. Still, Exalted Wildshape is quite nice. Possibly: Energy Substitution-Sonic. Various metamagic feats can be quite useful (Persistent and Chain come to mind). What do you want to accomplish? Have you looked at the relavent "guides"? (example: The Druid handbook (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=165279&page=1&pp=50))
Eikcuf 07-19-05, 04:10 PM	Still, Exalted Wildshape is quite nice. Yes it would, but its a non Exalted Campain. Possibly: Energy Substitution-Sonic. Why sonic Vrs any other energy? Various metamagic feats can be quite useful (Persistent and Chain come to mind). Both of those MetaMagic feats are very pricy spell level wise, are the any spicfic spells that warrent them? What do you want to accomplish? spell caster Have you looked at the relavent "guides"? (example: The Druid handbook (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=165279&page=1&pp=50)) yes but that is no good as it's 3.0ish
DavidWL 07-19-05, 10:52 PM	Why sonic Vrs any other energy? Because very few monsters have resistance to sonic. Resistance to Fire, Electricity, Cold, etc. is relatively common, so later on, when you blast a bad guy, you can change the blast to sonic so that it can get though his Energy Resistance. Both of those MetaMagic feats are very pricy spell level wise, are the any spicfic spells that warrent them? There is a page floating around on the board about useful spells you can make persistent (ah, it's here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=136060)). It is a list for clerics, but many are on the druid list. Not so useful earlier on, but later it can be. While it isn't vital, it certainly can be convenient not to have to spend time casting spells when in combat (especially if surprised). I like chain because it is great for whole-party buffs. Similarly with effecting a large group of enemies. Also, it really isn't that high level. Typically people want to know: 1) What sources you can use. (Example: 3.0 only. Core books + Sword and Fist, Masters of the Wild, Song and Silence, Tome and Blood). So, define, 3.0ish -- Arcane Heirophant is 3.5 2) What you want to accomplish. (Example: I want to be a Wizard/Druid who can wade into combat while wildshaped. I want to be a reasonably good unitilty and healing caster. Also, I want a cool and powerful animal companion).
Eikcuf 07-21-05, 03:48 PM	I can use any thing not 3.0 Im the only caster let alone devine with spontainous healer im "as good" as a cleric. So party roll is blaster, buffer, healer.
DavidWL 07-21-05, 11:47 PM	Ah. Ok. Also, "Extraordinary concentration" from CAdv comes to mind. Really cool feat.
20goingon1232 07-22-05, 12:27 AM	Try Drd3/Wiz3/MT2/AH10/MT2 This will give you 9th level spells in both Drd and Wiz. For Wiz, you might want to become a Diviner and drop Necromancy (a Druid casting most of the Necro spells is just begging for your DM to take your Druid abilities away from you). Plus a bit of extra stuff from AH. For this build, it is better to go with Tiefling and put your stats into Int, Wis, Dex and Con, probably in that order. Your ancestor was an Erynes instead of an angel. I'd take dual Practiced Spellcaster, Spell Penetration, Greater Spell Penetration, Spell Focus (Ench), Spell Focus (Trans) and maybe Improved Initiative (or skill focus (Spellcraft) for Archmage). You might also want to go a couple of levels of Archmage for Shape Spells and Mastery of Elements, but it will hurt your Drd spellcasting a bit. Best part about this build is that you can go all the way to level 46 with only -3 to your caster progression (none if you burn 2 feats on PS).
eRaz0r 07-29-05, 01:50 PM	I know this is an aside - but Epic MT is 1/2 caster progression instead of full. Unless they've errata'd it recently.
Sang-Drax 07-29-05, 03:25 PM	Check out the 3.5 Druid Handbook under my sig. Energy Substitution: Sonic is no longer available in 3.5.