arcane trickster [Archive] - Wizards Community

arcane trickster [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
starrius
12-04-06, 03:15 PM I've recently come up with an idea for a char

Rogue/bard arcane trickster and was looking to see if people had ideas abot how to prgress along this line to make it work

any input would be useful

thank you
Phoenix00
12-04-06, 03:58 PM Books, Level, Party, Setting, etc
starrius
12-04-06, 04:13 PM all completes.

starting from lvl 11 (as i work this out min lvl to get into arcane trickster as this build)
starrius
12-04-06, 04:15 PM generic world of GM

also using Eberron

races of destiny stone and wild

expanded psionics

and tome of battle
HoshiAdam
12-04-06, 04:23 PM Bard arcane trickster? That will take a little bit of time to get into.

Rogue1 /Bard4 /Unseen Seer3 should get you into the class (AFB right now, I think Unseen Seer is easy to get into from Bard). Unseen seer will add to your sneak attack and spellcasting. Source is Complete Mage.

If you want to be the face of the party instead of doing trapfinding, use a Changeling and the changeling substitution level from Races of Eberron (not sure if that is available).
Phoenix00
12-04-06, 04:25 PM Complete Mage, or just the old Completes?

If Complete Mage.

Rogue 3/Bard 2/Unseen Seer 5/Sublime Chord 1/Arcane Trickster 9
Neptunehero
12-04-06, 04:46 PM Is there a reason for choosing bard? Because they have few methods of delivering sneak attack damage, unless it's looking to be a melee character, in which case AT just cuts the BAB. It's really a very sub-optimal idea, but I'll assume you have logic for it... right?
starrius
12-05-06, 02:02 PM i was looking for a good way to combine rogue and bard. I like rogue and my fav class is bard. and was hoping if i can combine the 2 effectivly i could be usefull all over. but at same point i didn't want to loose out on the higher spells of a bard as they prove useful
Phoenix00
12-05-06, 02:06 PM Books, Level, Party, Setting, etc

See above quote.
starrius
12-05-06, 02:12 PM generic world of GM

also using Eberron

races of destiny stone and wild

expanded psionics

and tome of battle

all completes.. just realised it's not all completes....

complete arcane/psionic/warrior/adventure/divine
Phoenix00
12-05-06, 02:17 PM Rogue 3/Bard 2/Unseen Seer 5/Sublime Chord 1/Arcane Trickster 9 then

Gain a sneak attack at lvls 1, 3, 6, 9, 13,15,17,19 for a total of 8d6. That is before you add Hunter's Eye to the bag. You get 9th lvl spells with this build and at low lvls are still an effective rogue with some bard spells.

NVM
DaveTheMagicWeasel
12-05-06, 02:25 PM Rogue 2 / Bard 6 / Daggerspell Mage 2 / Sublime Chord 2 / Daggerspell Mage 3-10

Intended as a melee rogue, using Arcane Strike, Inspire Courage, Bardic spells and Snowflake Wardance (Frostburn) to make up for the below par BAB (+13).

Not sure how viable it is without Snowflake Wardance though tbh.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
starrius 12-04-06, 03:15 PM	I've recently come up with an idea for a char Rogue/bard arcane trickster and was looking to see if people had ideas abot how to prgress along this line to make it work any input would be useful thank you
Phoenix00 12-04-06, 03:58 PM	Books, Level, Party, Setting, etc
starrius 12-04-06, 04:13 PM	all completes. starting from lvl 11 (as i work this out min lvl to get into arcane trickster as this build)
starrius 12-04-06, 04:15 PM	generic world of GM also using Eberron races of destiny stone and wild expanded psionics and tome of battle
HoshiAdam 12-04-06, 04:23 PM	Bard arcane trickster? That will take a little bit of time to get into. Rogue1 /Bard4 /Unseen Seer3 should get you into the class (AFB right now, I think Unseen Seer is easy to get into from Bard). Unseen seer will add to your sneak attack and spellcasting. Source is Complete Mage. If you want to be the face of the party instead of doing trapfinding, use a Changeling and the changeling substitution level from Races of Eberron (not sure if that is available).
Phoenix00 12-04-06, 04:25 PM	Complete Mage, or just the old Completes? If Complete Mage. Rogue 3/Bard 2/Unseen Seer 5/Sublime Chord 1/Arcane Trickster 9
Neptunehero 12-04-06, 04:46 PM	Is there a reason for choosing bard? Because they have few methods of delivering sneak attack damage, unless it's looking to be a melee character, in which case AT just cuts the BAB. It's really a very sub-optimal idea, but I'll assume you have logic for it... right?
starrius 12-05-06, 02:02 PM	i was looking for a good way to combine rogue and bard. I like rogue and my fav class is bard. and was hoping if i can combine the 2 effectivly i could be usefull all over. but at same point i didn't want to loose out on the higher spells of a bard as they prove useful
Phoenix00 12-05-06, 02:06 PM	Books, Level, Party, Setting, etc See above quote.
starrius 12-05-06, 02:12 PM	generic world of GM also using Eberron races of destiny stone and wild expanded psionics and tome of battle all completes.. just realised it's not all completes.... complete arcane/psionic/warrior/adventure/divine
Phoenix00 12-05-06, 02:17 PM	Rogue 3/Bard 2/Unseen Seer 5/Sublime Chord 1/Arcane Trickster 9 then Gain a sneak attack at lvls 1, 3, 6, 9, 13,15,17,19 for a total of 8d6. That is before you add Hunter's Eye to the bag. You get 9th lvl spells with this build and at low lvls are still an effective rogue with some bard spells. NVM
DaveTheMagicWeasel 12-05-06, 02:25 PM	Rogue 2 / Bard 6 / Daggerspell Mage 2 / Sublime Chord 2 / Daggerspell Mage 3-10 Intended as a melee rogue, using Arcane Strike, Inspire Courage, Bardic spells and Snowflake Wardance (Frostburn) to make up for the below par BAB (+13). Not sure how viable it is without Snowflake Wardance though tbh.