Archmage optimization [Archive] - Wizards Community

Archmage optimization [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
thisisntadam
08-03-04, 03:21 PM I have played rogues basically all of my D&D life but I am currently playing a wizard. I am going to take the Archmage PRC soon but I am wondering why many people think it is so powerful. I understand and see why it is a nice class to have but I am lacking at seeing any exremely strong abilities.

Could you please help me see how to best use the archmage PRC.

Right now I am ELC 11 and will start the archmage class at ECL 14. Thanks.
ShadowCrown
08-03-04, 03:26 PM The 3.0 version was the really brutally powerful version, mainly due to spell power boosting save DC instead of caster level. It's alright in the 3.5 version, but it's not amazing.
Penguin Master
08-03-04, 03:28 PM In 3.5 one of their best abilities is Mastery of Elements. Energy substitution on steriods.
thisisntadam
08-03-04, 03:33 PM We play a cross between 3.0 and 3.5, what was that cheap thing in 3.0? I might be able to sneak it past my DM.
ShadowCrown
08-03-04, 03:59 PM Originally posted by ShadowCrown
The 3.0 version was the really brutally powerful version, mainly due to spell power boosting save DC instead of caster level. It's alright in the 3.5 version, but it's not amazing.
Sensei Gith
08-03-04, 06:18 PM Don't try to cheat it past your DM. It's powerful in the sense of game-breaking.
Fromost the Grimm
08-03-04, 06:29 PM Mastery of Shaping is mighty fine if your Wizard is a fireball-slinging Evocator.

You never have to worry about catching party members in friendly fire again . . . fireball at will, and shape pockets of safety around them. Is especially fun with widened maximised empowered sonic fireballs.

:)
PhaedrusXY
08-03-04, 06:32 PM Some people like the Arcane Fire ability because it bypasses Spell Resistance and gives you a decent offensive power to use against creatures with very high SR.
McHalfling
08-03-04, 07:06 PM where in the 3.0 dmg is the Archmage prc description at, cuz im not finding it anywhere
thx
PhaedrusXY
08-03-04, 07:10 PM Originally posted by McHalfling
where in the 3.0 dmg is the Archmage prc description at, cuz im not finding it anywhere
thx It wasn't in the 3.0 DMG. In 3.0, it was in the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting. In 3.5, they put it into the DMG.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
thisisntadam 08-03-04, 03:21 PM	I have played rogues basically all of my D&D life but I am currently playing a wizard. I am going to take the Archmage PRC soon but I am wondering why many people think it is so powerful. I understand and see why it is a nice class to have but I am lacking at seeing any exremely strong abilities. Could you please help me see how to best use the archmage PRC. Right now I am ELC 11 and will start the archmage class at ECL 14. Thanks.
ShadowCrown 08-03-04, 03:26 PM	The 3.0 version was the really brutally powerful version, mainly due to spell power boosting save DC instead of caster level. It's alright in the 3.5 version, but it's not amazing.
Penguin Master 08-03-04, 03:28 PM	In 3.5 one of their best abilities is Mastery of Elements. Energy substitution on steriods.
thisisntadam 08-03-04, 03:33 PM	We play a cross between 3.0 and 3.5, what was that cheap thing in 3.0? I might be able to sneak it past my DM.
ShadowCrown 08-03-04, 03:59 PM	Originally posted by ShadowCrown The 3.0 version was the really brutally powerful version, mainly due to spell power boosting save DC instead of caster level. It's alright in the 3.5 version, but it's not amazing.
Sensei Gith 08-03-04, 06:18 PM	Don't try to cheat it past your DM. It's powerful in the sense of game-breaking.
Fromost the Grimm 08-03-04, 06:29 PM	Mastery of Shaping is mighty fine if your Wizard is a fireball-slinging Evocator. You never have to worry about catching party members in friendly fire again . . . fireball at will, and shape pockets of safety around them. Is especially fun with widened maximised empowered sonic fireballs. :)
PhaedrusXY 08-03-04, 06:32 PM	Some people like the Arcane Fire ability because it bypasses Spell Resistance and gives you a decent offensive power to use against creatures with very high SR.
McHalfling 08-03-04, 07:06 PM	where in the 3.0 dmg is the Archmage prc description at, cuz im not finding it anywhere thx
PhaedrusXY 08-03-04, 07:10 PM	Originally posted by McHalfling where in the 3.0 dmg is the Archmage prc description at, cuz im not finding it anywhere thx It wasn't in the 3.0 DMG. In 3.0, it was in the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting. In 3.5, they put it into the DMG.