Are rings useful? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Are rings useful? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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DaemonStryker
02-02-07, 11:09 PM Could anybody name some useful rings? Epic-level or not, it doesn't matter. Any ring.

After all, a dragon has 20 fingers. :D

Thank you anyone!
PhoenixInferno
02-02-07, 11:10 PM A Dragon can still only benefit from a few at a time. Unless you've (foolishly) spent all your feats on Extra Rings feats.
jameswilliamogle
02-02-07, 11:14 PM It depends on what you want to do, really. +Skill rings are good on some characters, and everyone can benefit from Protection Rings. The Chameleon ring is ridiculously useful for a Cha based Rogue, as does a Ring of Invisibility or Blink(although it admitedly is not as good at the level they can afford it). They're all powerful, but usually a Protection and a Feather Fall ring are what most of my characters have used (Deadwalker Ring on my Dread Necromancer, though).
DaemonStryker
02-02-07, 11:15 PM A Dragon can still only benefit from a few at a time. Unless you've (foolishly) spent all your feats on Extra Rings feats.

Eh. God forbid I did that. Extra ring deserves a place in the 'useless feat' thread.

Even though I can only benefit from a few at a time, I can change which few I benefit from as a free action, right? Or is it a standard?

Anywhoo, is there a ring which gives you unlimited haste or something along those lines?

Anything else, too, would be useful.
My dragon'll cast spells as a 19th level sorcerer, so any spell-rings could be useful....
Hmmm.... Maybe a spell-storing ring or five...
Anyone know any good (damage-wise) epic level spells?
I'll be ECL 50, cast spells as 19th level sor. Leading to serious damage, hopefully.
jameswilliamogle
02-02-07, 11:17 PM Are you playing the dragon? Are you more arcane or melee focused? Have your tried the Epic board yet, or the SRD?

non-epic
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/rings.htm
epic
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/magicItems/rings.htm
grasharm
02-03-07, 01:59 AM Ring of Sustance is one of my Favs. no need to eat and only need 2 hours of sleep now.
Bengal
02-03-07, 02:08 AM Dragons don't usually mind the fanged ring.

Custom rings are always fun too. I wish rings of elemental matery sucked less.
Endarire
02-03-07, 03:12 AM Get an ioun stone that doesn't require you to eat. It's only 4k!

-EE
Baracq
02-03-07, 04:18 AM Ooh! Ooh! Get a 3.0 ring of spell turning!

200k gold, turn it on and you're immune to all targeted spells! Unless, of course, you're both wearing rings. Then there's a chance you both get sent to another plane.

**Edit** Then, combine that with a ring of evasion and you're good against most area-effect spells.
foxylady
02-03-07, 08:25 AM Best Ring? Freedom of Movement.
DaemonStryker
02-03-07, 10:36 PM Thanks for all the responses!
Are you playing the dragon? Are you more arcane or melee focused? Have you tried the epic boards, or the SRD?
Yes, I'm playing the dragon, and indeed this is for the epic boards. CR 35 = ECL 50. Man, I'm having fun. I'm more melee focused, but really only because I lack either the ELH or DMG. Or PH. But, anyways, I cast spells as a 27th level sorcerer, so if you could recommend some spells it'd be great.
Dragons don't usually mind the fanged ring.
I'm afraid I don't know what you're referring to, but I like the sound of it.
Get a ring of 3.0 spell turning!
Excellent idea, but 3.0 isn't easily allowed. I'll try to get it, but if it fails i can still go with the 3.5 one. ^^
Best Ring? Freedom of Movement!
Oooh, yes. This will come in handy. Thank you tons.
Yorath_theWolf
02-03-07, 10:58 PM Get an ioun stone that doesn't require you to eat. It's only 4k!

-EE

yes well unlike the ring the stone doesn't let you use less downtime and still be able to fully 'recharge' and memorize spells... unless I'm crossing wires and thinking the ring works like Hewards Handy Bedroll.
DaemonStryker
02-03-07, 11:05 PM yes well unlike the ring the stone doesn't let you use less downtime and still be able to fully 'recharge' and memorize spells... unless I'm crossing wires and thinking the ring works like Hewards Handy Bedroll.

Nice as that is, this is for duels- eating is no real problem. And I have a better way, for dragons. Dragon Ascendant from the Draconomicon. In the end, you no longer need to eat or sleep or breathe, have maximum hit points for your HD and Con bonus, are resistant to fire and polymorph and petrification and drain/damage and poison and a few other goodies. Not to mention full BAB and 2/3 saves. Plus new frightful presence. Extra DR. No mind-affecting. I love that class.
smage
02-03-07, 11:44 PM Best Ring? Freedom of Movement.

Amen to that. Nothing like having your 8 Str Wizard tell the DM that he's not allowed to Swallow [you] Whole with his 80 Str Colossal made-specifically-to-eat-you creature. ;)

Nice as that is, this is for duels- eating is no real problem. And I have a better way, for dragons. Dragon Ascendant from the Draconomicon. In the end, you no longer need to eat or sleep or breathe, have maximum hit points for your HD and Con bonus, are resistant to fire and polymorph and petrification and drain/damage and poison and a few other goodies. Not to mention full BAB and 2/3 saves. Plus new frightful presence. Extra DR. No mind-affecting. I love that class.

Nice as that is, the requirements make it pretty much a pipedream for any real player (true dragon, +30 BAB, consume entire hoard equaling at least 100k gp, etc). :P
Griff
02-04-07, 12:29 AM Nice as that is, the requirements make it pretty much a pipedream for any real player (true dragon, +30 BAB, consume entire hoard equaling at least 100k gp, etc). :P

A bit off topic, but if youve consumed your hoard why not go VoP,
:P
A VoP dragon could be fun and the you wouldnt need to worry about which rings and stuff to buy... (although hardly suitable for epic i imagine)
smage
02-04-07, 01:01 AM A bit off topic, but if youve consumed your hoard why not go VoP,
:P
A VoP dragon could be fun and the you wouldnt need to worry about which rings and stuff to buy... (although hardly suitable for epic i imagine)

Pretty late to be entering VoP, but if you think VoP compares to Epic items (nothing says you have to eat any new horde you amass after entering the Prestige Class), knock yourself out (I'll take the dragon with Epic items). :P
DaemonStryker
02-04-07, 12:16 PM Pipedream? Hardly. As a dragon, you gain BAB as you gain HD (and CR) so a 30 HD dragon (who has been amassing a hoard for while, then buys out all but 100k of it and eats the 100k. It says nothing about magic items you're wearing, or hoard that isn't yours... etc. etc.
Just give all but 100k to a friend to save for you. Ta-Da.
And yeah, VoP would be good with that... nice find.
Aluroon
02-04-07, 12:26 PM Pipedream? Hardly. As a dragon, you gain BAB as you gain HD (and CR) so a 30 HD dragon (who has been amassing a hoard for while, then buys out all but 100k of it and eats the 100k. It says nothing about magic items you're wearing, or hoard that isn't yours... etc. etc.
Just give all but 100k to a friend to save for you. Ta-Da.
And yeah, VoP would be good with that... nice find.

Way to abuse the words as written. Its strongly implied you must consume your entire horde, not give it away (or spend it on items).
Caelic
02-04-07, 12:34 PM Way to abuse the words as written. Its strongly implied you must consume your entire horde, not give it away (or spend it on items).

"But the rules don't say I caaaaan't!"
DaemonStryker
02-04-07, 04:30 PM "But the rules don't say I caaaaan't!"

Lol. Hoorah. And as pointed out before- It says nothing about hoard after that. And it really doesn't imply any equipment- just the 'Hoard' laying around on the floor of your cavern. So spend some on equipment, and eat the rest. Or just buy all the equips you need before attaining the level.
Shinazazi
02-04-07, 05:20 PM You do realize that for additional cost 1.5X you can place enchantments on rings that normally go on other slot items? Like +6 con and such. So if you have a slot you need 2 things in they become very useful.

Also there are several items that allow you to use more than 2 rings, so IMO they can be very useful even if not many typical rings are.
PhaedrusXY
02-04-07, 05:41 PM A hoard isn't just "the stuff lying around on the floor that you don't care about". It includes all of the dragon's wealth.

I agree that you could buy equipment with wealth you aquired after entering the PrC, but if I were DMing this character, you'd have to give up all wealth earned up to that point. I would let you slip by with inherent bonuses from Wishes, and other permanent enhancements, though.

If your DM/referee lets you get by with anything more than that, he's soft-headed and weak. :P
DaemonStryker
02-04-07, 06:28 PM A hoard isn't just "the stuff lying around on the floor that you don't care about". It includes all of the dragon's wealth.

I agree that you could buy equipment with wealth you aquired after entering the PrC, but if I were DMing this character, you'd have to give up all wealth earned up to that point. I would let you slip by with inherent bonuses from Wishes, and other permanent enhancements, though.

If your DM/referee lets you get by with anything more than that, he's soft-headed and weak. :P

This isn't an actual character, though. Just speculating on it.
And yeah, most DMs would make you give it all up.
But how many DMs' would allow Pun-Pun? It's the freakin CO boards. ^^

Oh, and I've decided- Hand of Glory for an extra ring, then ring of protection +10, ring of universal energy immunity, and a ring of evasion. edit- Of course, if there's something you think is better, don't hesitate to say so. =)

Also, good point, I'll add in secondary abilities to the rings. Thanks.
Bengal
02-05-07, 01:07 AM it actually says that you need to eat your whole hoard. This is a heavily flavor-based PrC, so we need to apply flavor-based limits.

Besides, there's good eatin' there, why would you want to wear it instead?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
DaemonStryker 02-02-07, 11:09 PM	Could anybody name some useful rings? Epic-level or not, it doesn't matter. Any ring. After all, a dragon has 20 fingers. :D Thank you anyone!
PhoenixInferno 02-02-07, 11:10 PM	A Dragon can still only benefit from a few at a time. Unless you've (foolishly) spent all your feats on Extra Rings feats.
jameswilliamogle 02-02-07, 11:14 PM	It depends on what you want to do, really. +Skill rings are good on some characters, and everyone can benefit from Protection Rings. The Chameleon ring is ridiculously useful for a Cha based Rogue, as does a Ring of Invisibility or Blink(although it admitedly is not as good at the level they can afford it). They're all powerful, but usually a Protection and a Feather Fall ring are what most of my characters have used (Deadwalker Ring on my Dread Necromancer, though).
DaemonStryker 02-02-07, 11:15 PM	A Dragon can still only benefit from a few at a time. Unless you've (foolishly) spent all your feats on Extra Rings feats. Eh. God forbid I did that. Extra ring deserves a place in the 'useless feat' thread. Even though I can only benefit from a few at a time, I can change which few I benefit from as a free action, right? Or is it a standard? Anywhoo, is there a ring which gives you unlimited haste or something along those lines? Anything else, too, would be useful. My dragon'll cast spells as a 19th level sorcerer, so any spell-rings could be useful.... Hmmm.... Maybe a spell-storing ring or five... Anyone know any good (damage-wise) epic level spells? I'll be ECL 50, cast spells as 19th level sor. Leading to serious damage, hopefully.
jameswilliamogle 02-02-07, 11:17 PM	Are you playing the dragon? Are you more arcane or melee focused? Have your tried the Epic board yet, or the SRD? non-epic http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/rings.htm epic http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/magicItems/rings.htm
grasharm 02-03-07, 01:59 AM	Ring of Sustance is one of my Favs. no need to eat and only need 2 hours of sleep now.
Bengal 02-03-07, 02:08 AM	Dragons don't usually mind the fanged ring. Custom rings are always fun too. I wish rings of elemental matery sucked less.
Endarire 02-03-07, 03:12 AM	Get an ioun stone that doesn't require you to eat. It's only 4k! -EE
Baracq 02-03-07, 04:18 AM	Ooh! Ooh! Get a 3.0 ring of spell turning! 200k gold, turn it on and you're immune to all targeted spells! Unless, of course, you're both wearing rings. Then there's a chance you both get sent to another plane. Edit Then, combine that with a ring of evasion and you're good against most area-effect spells.
foxylady 02-03-07, 08:25 AM	Best Ring? Freedom of Movement.
DaemonStryker 02-03-07, 10:36 PM	Thanks for all the responses! Are you playing the dragon? Are you more arcane or melee focused? Have you tried the epic boards, or the SRD? Yes, I'm playing the dragon, and indeed this is for the epic boards. CR 35 = ECL 50. Man, I'm having fun. I'm more melee focused, but really only because I lack either the ELH or DMG. Or PH. But, anyways, I cast spells as a 27th level sorcerer, so if you could recommend some spells it'd be great. Dragons don't usually mind the fanged ring. I'm afraid I don't know what you're referring to, but I like the sound of it. Get a ring of 3.0 spell turning! Excellent idea, but 3.0 isn't easily allowed. I'll try to get it, but if it fails i can still go with the 3.5 one. ^^ Best Ring? Freedom of Movement! Oooh, yes. This will come in handy. Thank you tons.
Yorath_theWolf 02-03-07, 10:58 PM	Get an ioun stone that doesn't require you to eat. It's only 4k! -EE yes well unlike the ring the stone doesn't let you use less downtime and still be able to fully 'recharge' and memorize spells... unless I'm crossing wires and thinking the ring works like Hewards Handy Bedroll.
DaemonStryker 02-03-07, 11:05 PM	yes well unlike the ring the stone doesn't let you use less downtime and still be able to fully 'recharge' and memorize spells... unless I'm crossing wires and thinking the ring works like Hewards Handy Bedroll. Nice as that is, this is for duels- eating is no real problem. And I have a better way, for dragons. Dragon Ascendant from the Draconomicon. In the end, you no longer need to eat or sleep or breathe, have maximum hit points for your HD and Con bonus, are resistant to fire and polymorph and petrification and drain/damage and poison and a few other goodies. Not to mention full BAB and 2/3 saves. Plus new frightful presence. Extra DR. No mind-affecting. I love that class.
smage 02-03-07, 11:44 PM	Best Ring? Freedom of Movement. Amen to that. Nothing like having your 8 Str Wizard tell the DM that he's not allowed to Swallow [you] Whole with his 80 Str Colossal made-specifically-to-eat-you creature. ;) Nice as that is, this is for duels- eating is no real problem. And I have a better way, for dragons. Dragon Ascendant from the Draconomicon. In the end, you no longer need to eat or sleep or breathe, have maximum hit points for your HD and Con bonus, are resistant to fire and polymorph and petrification and drain/damage and poison and a few other goodies. Not to mention full BAB and 2/3 saves. Plus new frightful presence. Extra DR. No mind-affecting. I love that class. Nice as that is, the requirements make it pretty much a pipedream for any real player (true dragon, +30 BAB, consume entire hoard equaling at least 100k gp, etc). :P
Griff 02-04-07, 12:29 AM	Nice as that is, the requirements make it pretty much a pipedream for any real player (true dragon, +30 BAB, consume entire hoard equaling at least 100k gp, etc). :P A bit off topic, but if youve consumed your hoard why not go VoP, :P A VoP dragon could be fun and the you wouldnt need to worry about which rings and stuff to buy... (although hardly suitable for epic i imagine)
smage 02-04-07, 01:01 AM	A bit off topic, but if youve consumed your hoard why not go VoP, :P A VoP dragon could be fun and the you wouldnt need to worry about which rings and stuff to buy... (although hardly suitable for epic i imagine) Pretty late to be entering VoP, but if you think VoP compares to Epic items (nothing says you have to eat any new horde you amass after entering the Prestige Class), knock yourself out (I'll take the dragon with Epic items). :P
DaemonStryker 02-04-07, 12:16 PM	Pipedream? Hardly. As a dragon, you gain BAB as you gain HD (and CR) so a 30 HD dragon (who has been amassing a hoard for while, then buys out all but 100k of it and eats the 100k. It says nothing about magic items you're wearing, or hoard that isn't yours... etc. etc. Just give all but 100k to a friend to save for you. Ta-Da. And yeah, VoP would be good with that... nice find.
Aluroon 02-04-07, 12:26 PM	Pipedream? Hardly. As a dragon, you gain BAB as you gain HD (and CR) so a 30 HD dragon (who has been amassing a hoard for while, then buys out all but 100k of it and eats the 100k. It says nothing about magic items you're wearing, or hoard that isn't yours... etc. etc. Just give all but 100k to a friend to save for you. Ta-Da. And yeah, VoP would be good with that... nice find. Way to abuse the words as written. Its strongly implied you must consume your entire horde, not give it away (or spend it on items).
Caelic 02-04-07, 12:34 PM	Way to abuse the words as written. Its strongly implied you must consume your entire horde, not give it away (or spend it on items). "But the rules don't say I caaaaan't!"
DaemonStryker 02-04-07, 04:30 PM	"But the rules don't say I caaaaan't!" Lol. Hoorah. And as pointed out before- It says nothing about hoard after that. And it really doesn't imply any equipment- just the 'Hoard' laying around on the floor of your cavern. So spend some on equipment, and eat the rest. Or just buy all the equips you need before attaining the level.
Shinazazi 02-04-07, 05:20 PM	You do realize that for additional cost 1.5X you can place enchantments on rings that normally go on other slot items? Like +6 con and such. So if you have a slot you need 2 things in they become very useful. Also there are several items that allow you to use more than 2 rings, so IMO they can be very useful even if not many typical rings are.
PhaedrusXY 02-04-07, 05:41 PM	A hoard isn't just "the stuff lying around on the floor that you don't care about". It includes all of the dragon's wealth. I agree that you could buy equipment with wealth you aquired after entering the PrC, but if I were DMing this character, you'd have to give up all wealth earned up to that point. I would let you slip by with inherent bonuses from Wishes, and other permanent enhancements, though. If your DM/referee lets you get by with anything more than that, he's soft-headed and weak. :P
DaemonStryker 02-04-07, 06:28 PM	A hoard isn't just "the stuff lying around on the floor that you don't care about". It includes all of the dragon's wealth. I agree that you could buy equipment with wealth you aquired after entering the PrC, but if I were DMing this character, you'd have to give up all wealth earned up to that point. I would let you slip by with inherent bonuses from Wishes, and other permanent enhancements, though. If your DM/referee lets you get by with anything more than that, he's soft-headed and weak. :P This isn't an actual character, though. Just speculating on it. And yeah, most DMs would make you give it all up. But how many DMs' would allow Pun-Pun? It's the freakin CO boards. ^^ Oh, and I've decided- Hand of Glory for an extra ring, then ring of protection +10, ring of universal energy immunity, and a ring of evasion. edit- Of course, if there's something you think is better, don't hesitate to say so. =) Also, good point, I'll add in secondary abilities to the rings. Thanks.
Bengal 02-05-07, 01:07 AM	it actually says that you need to eat your whole hoard. This is a heavily flavor-based PrC, so we need to apply flavor-based limits. Besides, there's good eatin' there, why would you want to wear it instead?