Post/Author/DateTime	Post
haferka 06-15-05, 01:16 AM	Is there a way to build this race (from sandstorm) into a grapple.. that can popup out of the sand, grab someone/thing.. drag them into the ground (since they have "sandswim") and leave them their to suffocate...
haferka 06-15-05, 02:03 AM	so.. is there a feat that allows me to pull someone into my square when I grapple.. then I could be 15' below them .. spring attack up .. start the grapple.. which pulls them 5' below the ground .. then travel 10' back down .. out of thier reach.. and.. move into possition to grab the next person... Also.. what are the rules for being burried alive?
Parsius 06-15-05, 02:19 AM	If you win the grapple check, you get to drag the grappled opponent where ever you want. I'm thinking using drowning/suffocation damage for people stuck in sand. If you mean not moving into their square when grappling, I think you can take an appropriate penalty to grapple to not be considered grappled, thus grapple, then use spring attack to force them into the sand and watch them drown. Otherwise you'll need to find a way to get improved grab (maybe one of the aboleth or illithid grafts do it, not sure)
haferka 06-15-05, 01:24 PM	If you win the grapple check, you get to drag the grappled opponent where ever you want. I'm thinking using drowning/suffocation damage for people stuck in sand. If you mean not moving into their square when grappling, I think you can take an appropriate penalty to grapple to not be considered grappled, thus grapple, then use spring attack to force them into the sand and watch them drown. Otherwise you'll need to find a way to get improved grab (maybe one of the aboleth or illithid grafts do it, not sure) So, can I take that someone with me when I sandswim? I havnt seen any rulings on this...
Shaqspaere 06-15-05, 01:29 PM	leave them their to suffocate... That's Evil :evillaugh :devil: :smirk:
Zsasz_Diedne 06-15-05, 01:45 PM	Seconded, that's an awesome tactic, hearkens back to many a martial arts flick I've seen.