Ask for an optimization... [Archive] - Wizards Community

Ask for an optimization... [Archive] - Wizards Community

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MaarakthePatient
11-03-06, 02:16 AM Seeing the large number of new threads on the board asking for new character builds and optimizations, it seems like it might be a good idea to try and consolidate them like the Ask a simple question thread.

If this seems like a bad idea, blame it on me being new to the boards.
GaffeR
11-03-06, 02:43 AM Might work, but we DO have that whole library/handy links/important threads index stickied.
MaarakthePatient
11-03-06, 02:52 AM You do raise a good point, if not on purpose: If most of the people asking for the board to give them a build aren't bothering to check the stickied index of threads (or even the posting guidelines), why would they then use this thread.

*sigh*
PhoenixInferno
11-03-06, 03:01 AM You do raise a good point, if not on purpose: If most of the people asking for the board to give them a build aren't bothering to check the stickied index of threads (or even the posting guidelines), why would they then use this thread.

*sigh*Not because its a bad idea, its because roughly half the new posters treat this place like a store and 3/4ths of the new posters don't read the sticky threads.
GaffeR
11-03-06, 03:40 AM I'm thinking they might get read more if they were labelled more clearly. Important Threads Index is a bit vague.
oontyex
11-03-06, 09:39 AM I don't think you guys should get as frustrated as you do when people don't follow (or more often i'd say - don't know about) the posting guidelines.
No one forces you to reply to the posts, and if you choose to, it's really not such a big deal to link them to an old post etc
This forum lets people enjoy D&D with other people around the world in a unique way, drop the preachy edge and i think you'll enjoy this hobby a lot more
fil kearney
11-03-06, 09:46 AM it would really be too much to link all the threads,
"goliath builds here"
"warlock builds here"
trip builds here"
blah blah blah. what a headache.

we could relabel "important threads" to something like,
"previous builds ahdn how to make the most of optimization"
something to lead the impatient to existing resources instead of waiting for a build reuest.
seriosly, wht build is being asked for that hasn't already been done? find one you like, tweak it, and then ask for opinions.
Zendu
11-03-06, 10:32 AM Well I need a build so I'll start it off

This character is a NPC! I dont need cheese or brokeness, but I do want to have him be good at what he does!

I'm looking to make a mage-theif, or to be more specific, a mage who uses spells to out-steal rogues. I'm currently leaning towards gnome wiz/shadow illusionist. Since this character is NOT designed for ANY sort of combat, I think that eliminates daggerspell mage from the list, I also feel that arcane trickster is to...roguey. I mean I have knock for a reason. I've been looking at MT just for the raw amount of low level spells I will probably be eating through, but Im not sure that works on a char-op or char-dev level. Any ideas?
Zendu
11-03-06, 10:33 AM Not because its a bad idea, its because roughly half the new posters treat this place like a store and 3/4ths of the new posters don't read the sticky threads.

Thats true of any board...ever.

Also, theres no way that character is covered in the FAQ unless you count cheater of mysteria (sp?) which is to social for my tastes.
Richmud
11-03-06, 04:24 PM I'm looking to make a mage-theif, or to be more specific, a mage who uses spells to out-steal rogues. I'm currently leaning towards gnome wiz/shadow illusionist. Since this character is NOT designed for ANY sort of combat, I think that eliminates daggerspell mage from the list, I also feel that arcane trickster is to...roguey. I mean I have knock for a reason. I've been looking at MT just for the raw amount of low level spells I will probably be eating through, but Im not sure that works on a char-op or char-dev level. Any ideas?

Have you considered beguiler from PHB2? Has all the important rogue skills and its illusion and enchanment spells are quite good for stealing things and getting away.

Also the unseen seer from complete mage may be worth a look
zarzak
11-03-06, 04:29 PM Have you considered beguiler from PHB2? Has all the important rogue skills and its illusion and enchanment spells are quite good for stealing things and getting away.

Also the unseen seer from complete mage may be worth a look

Right on. Look over to this thread:
http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=733207

Hopefully it will blossom into lots of fun builds. :)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
MaarakthePatient 11-03-06, 02:16 AM	Seeing the large number of new threads on the board asking for new character builds and optimizations, it seems like it might be a good idea to try and consolidate them like the Ask a simple question thread. If this seems like a bad idea, blame it on me being new to the boards.
GaffeR 11-03-06, 02:43 AM	Might work, but we DO have that whole library/handy links/important threads index stickied.
MaarakthePatient 11-03-06, 02:52 AM	You do raise a good point, if not on purpose: If most of the people asking for the board to give them a build aren't bothering to check the stickied index of threads (or even the posting guidelines), why would they then use this thread. sigh
PhoenixInferno 11-03-06, 03:01 AM	You do raise a good point, if not on purpose: If most of the people asking for the board to give them a build aren't bothering to check the stickied index of threads (or even the posting guidelines), why would they then use this thread. sighNot because its a bad idea, its because roughly half the new posters treat this place like a store and 3/4ths of the new posters don't read the sticky threads.
GaffeR 11-03-06, 03:40 AM	I'm thinking they might get read more if they were labelled more clearly. Important Threads Index is a bit vague.
oontyex 11-03-06, 09:39 AM	I don't think you guys should get as frustrated as you do when people don't follow (or more often i'd say - don't know about) the posting guidelines. No one forces you to reply to the posts, and if you choose to, it's really not such a big deal to link them to an old post etc This forum lets people enjoy D&D with other people around the world in a unique way, drop the preachy edge and i think you'll enjoy this hobby a lot more
fil kearney 11-03-06, 09:46 AM	it would really be too much to link all the threads, "goliath builds here" "warlock builds here" trip builds here" blah blah blah. what a headache. we could relabel "important threads" to something like, "previous builds ahdn how to make the most of optimization" something to lead the impatient to existing resources instead of waiting for a build reuest. seriosly, wht build is being asked for that hasn't already been done? find one you like, tweak it, and then ask for opinions.
Zendu 11-03-06, 10:32 AM	Well I need a build so I'll start it off This character is a NPC! I dont need cheese or brokeness, but I do want to have him be good at what he does! I'm looking to make a mage-theif, or to be more specific, a mage who uses spells to out-steal rogues. I'm currently leaning towards gnome wiz/shadow illusionist. Since this character is NOT designed for ANY sort of combat, I think that eliminates daggerspell mage from the list, I also feel that arcane trickster is to...roguey. I mean I have knock for a reason. I've been looking at MT just for the raw amount of low level spells I will probably be eating through, but Im not sure that works on a char-op or char-dev level. Any ideas?
Zendu 11-03-06, 10:33 AM	Not because its a bad idea, its because roughly half the new posters treat this place like a store and 3/4ths of the new posters don't read the sticky threads. Thats true of any board...ever. Also, theres no way that character is covered in the FAQ unless you count cheater of mysteria (sp?) which is to social for my tastes.
Richmud 11-03-06, 04:24 PM	I'm looking to make a mage-theif, or to be more specific, a mage who uses spells to out-steal rogues. I'm currently leaning towards gnome wiz/shadow illusionist. Since this character is NOT designed for ANY sort of combat, I think that eliminates daggerspell mage from the list, I also feel that arcane trickster is to...roguey. I mean I have knock for a reason. I've been looking at MT just for the raw amount of low level spells I will probably be eating through, but Im not sure that works on a char-op or char-dev level. Any ideas? Have you considered beguiler from PHB2? Has all the important rogue skills and its illusion and enchanment spells are quite good for stealing things and getting away. Also the unseen seer from complete mage may be worth a look
zarzak 11-03-06, 04:29 PM	Have you considered beguiler from PHB2? Has all the important rogue skills and its illusion and enchanment spells are quite good for stealing things and getting away. Also the unseen seer from complete mage may be worth a look Right on. Look over to this thread: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=733207 Hopefully it will blossom into lots of fun builds. :)