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PhoenixInferno 08-28-06, 11:00 PM	Q: The class ability Favored Enemy (Evil) that the Harper Paragon (PGtF) and the Stalker of Kharash (BoED) have gives a bonus that stacks with other Favored Enemy bonuses. 1. If a ranger/HP or ranger/SoK gains a ranger level that improves his favored enemy bonus, can he apply this bonus to Favored Enemy (Evil) (i.e., raise the bonus against all evil creatures to +3)? 2. What if a ranger/HP gains a HP level that allows him to increase the bonus for another Favored Enemy (levels 5 and 10), does this include Favored Enemy (Evil)? --Lukas A: 1. Actually no, since in the description of the ranger class, it refers specifically to Table 3-14 for favored enemies that the ranger can choose from, those would be the favored enemies for which the ranger may advance their bonus. 2. Yes, since it indicates specifically in the text, “In addition, the bonus against any one favored enemy of her choice (regardless of the class in which she chose it) increases by 2.” --Chris LindsayPhoenixInferno's rebuttal: 1) Actually, yes, since the sentence that discusses adding the +2 bonus says "In addition, at each such interval [levels 5, 10, 15, 20], the bonus against any one favored enemy (including the one just selected) increases by 2." The sentence makes no reference to "Table 3-14" as did the previous sentence. If the Ask Wizards column is correct, then Stalker of Kharash will only ever get a +1 bonus vs Evil. 2) I'm OK with that...
FriendlyFrog 08-29-06, 01:59 AM	Agreed on all accounts. Do they even check if things would work out that way when they're trying to nerf something?
X-Codes 08-29-06, 04:34 AM	Actually, just counting all evil creatures as Favored Enemies is good enough for a number of very nice Ranger spells. Stalker might still be preferred for his full BAB instead of Harper Paragon's 3/4, of course Harper Paragon advances the spellcasting of any class instead of just Ranger. Hmmm... My head is storming up ideas for a Cleric/Harper Paragon/Prestige Ranger already... EDIT: Oh dang, no... Ranger can't add to FE: Evil... Hmmm... any other classes that add to FE?
runestar 08-29-06, 08:12 AM	Just as well, I have never been a strong proponent of allowing FE:evil as a legit target for improvement via ranger lvs...:P
Surreal 08-29-06, 12:52 PM	EDIT: Oh dang, no... Ranger can't add to FE: Evil... Hmmm... any other classes that add to FE? I think the Swanmay (BoED) has FE:evil.
PhoenixInferno 08-29-06, 01:00 PM	I think the Swanmay (BoED) has FE:evil.Nope. It has Favored Enemy but its "as if she had just gained another favored enemy from her Ranger class". EDIT: Oh dang, no... Ranger can't add to FE: Evil... Hmmm... any other classes that add to FE?Yeah, that's the point I was trying to rebut.
Surreal 08-29-06, 01:03 PM	D'oh. Well, this is my list of classes that have favoured enemy, though most of them have restrictions and/or don't stack the way you want it to. Some might... but you'll have to check the wording individually. Favoured Enemy Ranger 1 & 5 & 10 & 15 & 20 Deadgrim 2 & 5, ecl 7 (Magic of Eberron) - undead only Leviathan Hunter 2, 4/5, ecl 7, Stormwrack - only against huge or larger... Abolisher 1, 4, 8/10, ecl 7, Lords of Madness - abberations only Swanmay Impure Prince 2 & 6, ecl 7 (Magic of Eberron) - abberations only Slayer 1, ecl 5 - specific type of psionic creature only Darkwood Stalker 1, 4, 7, 10/10, ecl 6, Complete Warrior - orcs only, functionally same, but different name Gnome Giant Slayer 1, 4, 7, 10/10, ecl 6, Complete Warrior - giants only Goliath Liberator 1, 5/5, ecl 8, Races of Stone - giants only Scar Enforcer 1, ecl 6, Races of Destiny - humans and elves Eldeen Ranger 4, ecl 9, Eberron Campaign Setting Paladin 4 (Crescent Moon Knight substitution level), Champions of Valor - lycanthropes only Paladin 4 (Shadow Cloak Knight substitution level), Champions of Valor - humanoid subtype Paladin 1 (Holy Judge substitution level), Champions of Valor - devils only Rogue 2 (Golden Hand of Vergadain substitution level), Champions of Valor Web Enhancement - organization opposed to dwarves Shade Hunter 8, ecl 13, FR: Champions of Ruin - only stacks with existing, vs shades only Honourable Mention Knight of the Chalice 1, 3, 6, 9/10, ecl 9, Complete Warrior - Fiendslaying: against evil outsiders only Corrupt Avenger 1, 4, 7, 10/10, ecl 7, Heroes of Horror - against a specified single creature type Fighter 6 (Darksong Knight substitution level), Champions of Valor - Yochlols only
Tytalus 08-30-06, 12:23 AM	Foe Hunter [MotW] provides massive FE bonuses (and used to be very popular in combination with Stalker of Evil). It's 3.0 material, though.