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johnsric 03-08-06, 04:03 PM	Hi all, Looking at a Diviner 7/Loremaster 10/Halruaan Elder 3 for a game starting up which will focus on a Forgotten Realms “cold war” in the areas surrounding Anauroch between various power groups (e.g., Silver Marches, Cultists of the Shattered Peak, Halruaa). I’m going for more of the arcane explorer type character that can both find the location of an ancient artifact in the musty library as well as survive the catacombs it’s buried in. Expect a number of extraplanar folks as well hence the spell penetrations. Here is what I have so far: 25 point build S 8, D 12, C 10, I 18 (23 natural at level 20), W 10, Ch 9 Diviner 1 (drop necromancy) (scribe scroll, Halruaan Adept*, Spell Thematics*) Diviner 2 Diviner 3 – Skill Focus (Knowledge Arcana*) Diviner 4 – +1 Int Diviner 5 – Craft Wondrous Item Diviner 6 – Empower Spell Diviner 7 Diviner 7/Loremaster 1 – Loremaster Secret (Avoidance +2 Reflex saving throws), +1 Int Diviner 7/Loremaster 2 – Spell Penetration and Lore special ability Diviner 7/Loremaster 3 – Loremaster Secret (True Stamina +2 Fortitude saving throws) Diviner 7/Loremaster 4 Diviner 7/Loremaster 5 – Quicken spell, Loremaster Secret (bonus feat: greater spell penetration), +1 Int Diviner 7/Loremaster 6 – Greater Lore special ability Diviner 7/Lovemaster 7 – Loremaster Secret (newfound arcana: bonus 1st level spell slot) Diviner 7/Loremaster 8 – Feat??? Diviner 7/Loremaster 9 – Loremaster Secret (newfound arcane: bonus 2nd level spell slot), +1 Int Diviner 7/Loremaster 10 – True Lore special ability Diviner 7/Loremaster 10/Halruaan Elder 1 – Adroit spellcasting (Quicken), Feat??? Diviner 7/Loremaster 10/Halruaan Elder 2 – Signature spell (dispel magic) Diviner 7/Loremaster 10/Halruaan Elder 3 – +1 Int *Prereq for Loremaster or Halruaan Elder Skills Spellcraft, Knowledge (arcane, planes, dungeoneering, history), Concentration all maxed 5 ranks in survival 5 ranks in diplomacy (requirement for Halruaan Elder Smattering of other knowledge skills I realize there are quite a number of prereq feats in this build and that it is surely not Wiz 5/Incantatrix 10/Archmage 5 optimized caster. I had a few questions for the august minds on this board, however, as I still want to have a competitive and survivable character at the end of the day. 1. What feats should I select at 15th and 18th levels to help fill any vulnerabilities 2. Will I find this build hopelessly underpowered against other magical competitors in the “cold war” described above (e.g., Thayans, Elven Olin gisir, etc.) 3. Any magical items that I should be sure to pick up to cover a glaring vulnerability? 4. Any other constructive criticism is welcome! Thanks everyone. Edit: My apologies, forgot to add that we are restricted to core + complete series + Forgotten Realms books
BladeDrinker 03-08-06, 09:39 PM	First of all, I don't think Halruaan Elder works well as a capstone class. Archmage would be better. I really like the Halruaan Elder, however, so I will give you some advice should you choose to go with it. I would use wizard 5 / incantatrix 5/ halruaan elder 10 or something of that variety. Incantatrix 5 lets you apply your Metamagic feats to spell trigger items, and Halruaan Elder lets you use Metamagic with 1 less level increase. Black Lore of Moil from Complete Arcane might also be a good choice with this. You haven't leveraged your most powerful ability: circle magic. The Leadership feat will get you a cohort you can draw magical power from using circle magic, assuming your cohort is also a Halruaan Adept.