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King Bulba 11-10-06, 04:59 AM	Idea was to have a changling assassin (doesn’t have to be assassin PrC) in my Eberron party. I was planning to have Int be the primary stat for skills and death attack. I would be the party trapfinder so I need trapfinding, hence scout and ninja in builds 2 and 3 since changling rogue substitution levels lose trapfinding. The three following builds are just stuff I have been thinking about, if you have something else you want to suggest feel free. Houserules are, free weapon finesse and also a free bonus feat at level 1. Once you have a rank in a class skill it’s always a class skill. Stats rolled were 18, 16, 15, 15, 14, 12 Race: Changeling Build 1 Rogue 1-2, Swashbuckler 1-3, Warshaper 1-2, Assassin 1-8, (something) 5 Int to dmg, 5d6 SA, 11BAB+5HD, immunity to crits, 1 natural weapon you can morph, +4 Str Con, Swash 1 gives bonus feat since weapon finesse is free. Build 2 Changeing Rogue Substitution 1-2, Ninja 1-3, Assassin 1-2, War shaper 1-2, Assassin 3-8, (something) 5 More skill points 10+int x 4, can take 10 on social skill checks (nice), 5D6 SA, 2d6 sudden strike, 10BAB+5HD, ninja swift invise few times per day, immunity to crits, 1 natural weapon you can morph, +4 Str Con. Build 3 Changeng Rogue Substitution 1-2, Scout 1-3, Assassin 1-2, War shaper 1-2, Assassin 3-8, (something) 5 More skill points 10+int x 4, can take 10 on social skill checks (nice), 5D6 SA, 1d6 +1 AC skirmish, +10 land speed, uncanny dodge earlier on, 10BAB+5HD, immunity to crits, 1 natural weapon you can morph, +4 Str Con. Any opinions on feats, these are only what I'm thinking and not set in stone. Since BAB so slow I was thinking spring attack since TWF would be hard to pull off without the BAB to back it up. Flaws are ok if I need to pick something up. Feats 1) Dodge Bonus 1) Quickchange (RoE) 3) Darstalker (LoM) 6) Mobility 9) Spring Attack 12)Combat Expertise 15) Deft Strike (works great with death attack hehe) 18) Swash bonus feat if taken) Get mobility and take Ability Focus: Death Attack at 9 Anyone have any opinions on which one I should take or have a suggestion for something completely different? Thanks for you time BTW.
Llochlyn 11-10-06, 08:48 AM	Generic advice : Deviating a little bit from your build, but taking advantage of the race : Chameleon : Arcane spells (divination and illusion) to approach the target, a boost in sneak attack (you can use "Nightstalker's transformation"), stat boosts, floating feat... A Rogue/Swash entry is nice there. Hm... That said, if you're aiming at enhancing your Death Attack, you'll want INT synergy, thus swashbuckler and warblade can be good to grab on the way to PRCs. If it's a sneak attack focused build, you might want to use the weirdest multiclasses, including swordsage and binder, to send the SA through the roof
King Bulba 11-10-06, 05:46 PM	G Chameleon : Arcane spells (divination and illusion) to approach the target, a boost in sneak attack (you can use "Nightstalker's transformation"), stat boosts, floating feat... A Rogue/Swash entry is nice there. I will play around with that idea, thanks.
PhaedrusXY 11-10-06, 08:00 PM	I saw a Changeling Monk/Assassin/Monk of the Long Death build on here once that I thought looked awesome. I didn't save a link, sadly, and can't remember exactly how it went. It was something like Swashbuckler3/Monk2/MotLD6/Assassin7 with Kung Fu Genius.
King Bulba 11-10-06, 08:56 PM	I saw a Changeling Monk/Assassin/Monk of the Long Death build on here once that I thought looked awesome. I didn't save a link, sadly, and can't remember exactly how it went. It was something like Swashbuckler3/Monk2/MotLD6/Assassin7 with Kung Fu Genius. I LOVE it but the problem is I wanted to fill the role of the trapfinder. Maybe I can dump swashbucker and slip something else in. Also MotLD requires base will save 5 by level 6 so needs some tweaking with no matter what.
ChristopherGroves 11-10-06, 11:18 PM	Well, have you given any thought to Changeling Rogue / Cabinent Trickster / Mindspy? Maybe not w/ full Changeling rogue - throw in something for trapfinding if you want.
cthascott 11-12-06, 12:35 AM	Optional Warrior class in Unearthed Arcana. Choose your skills accordingly and choose from the generic classes feat list of Trapfinding and SA. You'll get Trap Sense, Trap Finding, and 2d6 SA in two levels. You'll also have the good BAB. Throw that into the mix somewhere and your build will be just fine. Hope I helped. Peace.