Attempt at a melee Artificer. Yeah, I'm dumb. [Archive] - Wizards Community

Attempt at a melee Artificer. Yeah, I'm dumb. [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Tealgorthian
10-23-04, 11:45 PM Human Artificer (War Varient)

I'll be allowed to add this to my sword, for a mere 300 gp, and a craft DC 25.

Wand Hilted Sword: Allows the weilder to place 1 wand into the hilt of a sword, and cast the spell within the wand as a standard action. Changing the wand is a full-round action that provokes an attack of oppurtunity

I plan on taking advantage of the infusions that allow me to enhance my armor and weapons, so I can effectively deal with any situtation. Wands of Enlarge Person, and various cleric buffs will up my damage output, and wands of those nifty regeneration spells will help even more.

Mithral breastplate is the best I can do for armor?

1 Art1: EWP: Bastard Sword(H), Extraordinary Artisan(1), Scribe Scroll(B)
2 Art2: Brew Potion(B)
3 Art3: Craft Wonderous Item(B), Power Attack (3)
4 Art4: Craft homunculus(B), Legendary Artisan
5 Art5: Craft Magic Arms and Armor (B)
6 Art6: Quicken Spell(6)
7 Art7: Craft Wand (B)
8 Art8: Wand Mastery (B)
9 Art9: Weapon Focus: Bastard Sword (9), Craft Rod (B)
10 Art9/EWM1 Uncanny Blow
11 Art10/EWM1
12 Art11/EWM1 Extend Spell (12)
13 Art12/EWM1 Craft Staff, Exceptional Artisan
14 Art13/EWM1
15 Art14/EWM1 Forge Ring, Persistant Spell (15)
16 Art15/EWM1
17 Art16/EWM1 Extra Rings (B)
18 Art17/EWN1 Maximize Spell (18)
19 Art18/EWM1
20 Art19/EWM1
Caelic
10-24-04, 11:08 AM If you want a really optimal melee-ficer, I think some reconfiguring of feats is in order. You want Persistent as soon as humanly possible, preferrably by seventh level and at latest by ninth. Persistent Divine Power and Divine Favor are staples for you. At slightly higher levels, one of your first priorities should be a staff of Draconic Polymorph, which can ALSO be made Persistent.

I would also discard the Bastard Sword in favor of a simple club. Why? Spikes, my friend, Spikes. It's going to add a lot more damage to your attacks then Uncanny Blow, unless you have a truly monstrous strength. For even more oomph, you can technically also cast Brambles on the same club. If you can put a wand in the hilt of a sword, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to put one in the handle of a club.
Tealgorthian
10-24-04, 01:31 PM 1 Art1: Extend Spell(H), MWP: Great Club(1), Scribe Scroll(B)
2 Art2: Brew Potion(B)
3 Art3: Craft Wonderous Item(B), Power Attack (3)
4 Art4: Craft homunculus(B), Legendary Artisan (B)
5 Art5: Craft Magic Arms and Armor (B)
6 Art6: Persistant Spell(6)
7 Art7: Craft Wand (B)
8 Art8: Wand Mastery (B)
9 Art9: Extraordinary Artisan (9), Craft Rod (B)
10 Art10
11 Art11
12 Art12 Quicken Spell (12)
13 Art13 Craft Staff, Exceptional Artisan
14 Art14
15 Art15 Forge Ring, Persistant Spell (15)
16 Art16
17 Art17 Extra Rings (B)
18 Art18 Maximize Spell (18)
19 Art19
20 Art20 Craft Construct

Look better? Greatclub gives me better power attack synergy :)
Caelic
10-24-04, 02:00 PM A few of the feats are still slightly off. Craft Staff comes at level 12, not level 13...and you can replace the Persistent Spell at level 15 with something else now. :)

Heck, if your DM's crazy enough to allow it, show him the Bow of True Arrows, from Sword and Fist, and ask him if you can have the same ability in a melee weapon. It's a spell trigger, so it can be Quickened via Metamagic Item. Quickened True Strike plus Power Attack=ow.
Tealgorthian
10-24-04, 02:11 PM 1 Art1: Extend Spell(H), MWP: Great Club(1), Scribe Scroll(B)
2 Art2: Brew Potion(B)
3 Art3: Craft Wonderous Item(B), Power Attack (3)
4 Art4: Craft homunculus(B), Legendary Artisan (B)
5 Art5: Craft Magic Arms and Armor (B)
6 Art6: Persistant Spell(6)
7 Art7: Craft Wand (B)
8 Art8: Wand Mastery (B)
9 Art9: Extraordinary Artisan (9), Craft Rod (B)
10 Art10
11 Art11
12 Art12 Quicken Spell (12), Craft Staff(B), Exceptional Artisan(B)
13 Art13
14 Art14 Forge Ring(B)
15 Art15 Twin Spell(15)
16 Art16 Extra Rings(B)
17 Art17
18 Art18 Maximize Spell(18)
19 Art19
20 Art20 Craft Construct(B)

Heck, if your DM's crazy enough to allow it, show him the Bow of True Arrows, from Sword and Fist, and ask him if you can have the same ability in a melee weapon. It's a spell trigger, so it can be Quickened via Metamagic Item. Quickened True Strike plus Power Attack=ow.

Quoteth the DM: "Do I look like a bloody moron?" Hehe I guess that means no. Although, later, nothing stops me from making Greatclubs as staffs. I can just use great magic weapon and infusions to make the magic weapon of my choice.

Oh, the feat stuff was from me being lazy and just cutting and pasting stuff. But with this set up, I get persistant spell at the sametime as metamagic spell trigger :D

Did I get it right this time?

(I'm going to play the BAstard Sword-user in a one shot game.. just for flavor sake.)

Edit - Thinking about it, this is for a FR game, (hence no Heir of Siberys) so I could just take the Militia feat :D
Ruxpin
10-24-04, 06:48 PM I dont think you should bother with going for greatclub. Just create a wand of Shillelagh. This will increase the damage of your staff/club to 2d6, and then you could possibly take twf and attack with both ends of your staff, getting spike (spikes spell) attacks with both ends.

It might be possible that you could cast shillelagh on a great club.. The spell says on your nonmagical club/quarterstaff, guess that would be up to your DM.

Does anyone know offhand if you can duplicate psionic powers as well? or create psionic items as a artificer?
Tealgorthian
10-24-04, 07:23 PM There are psionics in Eberron, and they dont get the Use Psionic Device skill, so I would assume you cant.

I'd rather have a weapon on hand all the time, and not be complete dependent on my wands to do all the work for me. And the TWF chain is too many feats to work into a Artificer build. I'm going to be acting as a party healer as well.
Ruxpin
10-25-04, 02:31 AM I was under the impression that at the beginning of the day you just persistent spell'd all your buffs up with wands. Wouldnt be to hard to do shillelagh in there as well....
punkurself
10-25-04, 05:40 AM pardon me, but what is artificer from, so i can figure out what your talking about. :D
7sigma
10-25-04, 10:34 AM Artificer is a new class introduced by the Eberron setting. The master of all magic items, arcane or divine, the Artificer is soon taking its place as the best min-max material ever conceived. Get it now! :D
Tealgorthian
10-25-04, 12:02 PM I was under the impression that at the beginning of the day you just persistent spell'd all your buffs up with wands. Wouldnt be to hard to do shillelagh in there as well....

there is. Metamagic Spell item and Metamagic Spell Trigger. But it can still be dispelled :| While it isnt bad, I can still enchant the club, Spike it, and be okay. I might be a little less effective over all, but I think that the hit to min/max damage is worth a little flexability.

pardon me, but what is artificer from, so i can figure out what your talking about.

Eberron Camp Setting, Page 30ish. It's a base class that revolves around the Use Magic Device skill, and making items.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Tealgorthian 10-23-04, 11:45 PM	Human Artificer (War Varient) I'll be allowed to add this to my sword, for a mere 300 gp, and a craft DC 25. Wand Hilted Sword: Allows the weilder to place 1 wand into the hilt of a sword, and cast the spell within the wand as a standard action. Changing the wand is a full-round action that provokes an attack of oppurtunity I plan on taking advantage of the infusions that allow me to enhance my armor and weapons, so I can effectively deal with any situtation. Wands of Enlarge Person, and various cleric buffs will up my damage output, and wands of those nifty regeneration spells will help even more. Mithral breastplate is the best I can do for armor? 1 Art1: EWP: Bastard Sword(H), Extraordinary Artisan(1), Scribe Scroll(B) 2 Art2: Brew Potion(B) 3 Art3: Craft Wonderous Item(B), Power Attack (3) 4 Art4: Craft homunculus(B), Legendary Artisan 5 Art5: Craft Magic Arms and Armor (B) 6 Art6: Quicken Spell(6) 7 Art7: Craft Wand (B) 8 Art8: Wand Mastery (B) 9 Art9: Weapon Focus: Bastard Sword (9), Craft Rod (B) 10 Art9/EWM1 Uncanny Blow 11 Art10/EWM1 12 Art11/EWM1 Extend Spell (12) 13 Art12/EWM1 Craft Staff, Exceptional Artisan 14 Art13/EWM1 15 Art14/EWM1 Forge Ring, Persistant Spell (15) 16 Art15/EWM1 17 Art16/EWM1 Extra Rings (B) 18 Art17/EWN1 Maximize Spell (18) 19 Art18/EWM1 20 Art19/EWM1
Caelic 10-24-04, 11:08 AM	If you want a really optimal melee-ficer, I think some reconfiguring of feats is in order. You want Persistent as soon as humanly possible, preferrably by seventh level and at latest by ninth. Persistent Divine Power and Divine Favor are staples for you. At slightly higher levels, one of your first priorities should be a staff of Draconic Polymorph, which can ALSO be made Persistent. I would also discard the Bastard Sword in favor of a simple club. Why? Spikes, my friend, Spikes. It's going to add a lot more damage to your attacks then Uncanny Blow, unless you have a truly monstrous strength. For even more oomph, you can technically also cast Brambles on the same club. If you can put a wand in the hilt of a sword, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to put one in the handle of a club.
Tealgorthian 10-24-04, 01:31 PM	1 Art1: Extend Spell(H), MWP: Great Club(1), Scribe Scroll(B) 2 Art2: Brew Potion(B) 3 Art3: Craft Wonderous Item(B), Power Attack (3) 4 Art4: Craft homunculus(B), Legendary Artisan (B) 5 Art5: Craft Magic Arms and Armor (B) 6 Art6: Persistant Spell(6) 7 Art7: Craft Wand (B) 8 Art8: Wand Mastery (B) 9 Art9: Extraordinary Artisan (9), Craft Rod (B) 10 Art10 11 Art11 12 Art12 Quicken Spell (12) 13 Art13 Craft Staff, Exceptional Artisan 14 Art14 15 Art15 Forge Ring, Persistant Spell (15) 16 Art16 17 Art17 Extra Rings (B) 18 Art18 Maximize Spell (18) 19 Art19 20 Art20 Craft Construct Look better? Greatclub gives me better power attack synergy :)
Caelic 10-24-04, 02:00 PM	A few of the feats are still slightly off. Craft Staff comes at level 12, not level 13...and you can replace the Persistent Spell at level 15 with something else now. :) Heck, if your DM's crazy enough to allow it, show him the Bow of True Arrows, from Sword and Fist, and ask him if you can have the same ability in a melee weapon. It's a spell trigger, so it can be Quickened via Metamagic Item. Quickened True Strike plus Power Attack=ow.
Tealgorthian 10-24-04, 02:11 PM	1 Art1: Extend Spell(H), MWP: Great Club(1), Scribe Scroll(B) 2 Art2: Brew Potion(B) 3 Art3: Craft Wonderous Item(B), Power Attack (3) 4 Art4: Craft homunculus(B), Legendary Artisan (B) 5 Art5: Craft Magic Arms and Armor (B) 6 Art6: Persistant Spell(6) 7 Art7: Craft Wand (B) 8 Art8: Wand Mastery (B) 9 Art9: Extraordinary Artisan (9), Craft Rod (B) 10 Art10 11 Art11 12 Art12 Quicken Spell (12), Craft Staff(B), Exceptional Artisan(B) 13 Art13 14 Art14 Forge Ring(B) 15 Art15 Twin Spell(15) 16 Art16 Extra Rings(B) 17 Art17 18 Art18 Maximize Spell(18) 19 Art19 20 Art20 Craft Construct(B) Heck, if your DM's crazy enough to allow it, show him the Bow of True Arrows, from Sword and Fist, and ask him if you can have the same ability in a melee weapon. It's a spell trigger, so it can be Quickened via Metamagic Item. Quickened True Strike plus Power Attack=ow. Quoteth the DM: "Do I look like a bloody moron?" Hehe I guess that means no. Although, later, nothing stops me from making Greatclubs as staffs. I can just use great magic weapon and infusions to make the magic weapon of my choice. Oh, the feat stuff was from me being lazy and just cutting and pasting stuff. But with this set up, I get persistant spell at the sametime as metamagic spell trigger :D Did I get it right this time? (I'm going to play the BAstard Sword-user in a one shot game.. just for flavor sake.) Edit - Thinking about it, this is for a FR game, (hence no Heir of Siberys) so I could just take the Militia feat :D
Ruxpin 10-24-04, 06:48 PM	I dont think you should bother with going for greatclub. Just create a wand of Shillelagh. This will increase the damage of your staff/club to 2d6, and then you could possibly take twf and attack with both ends of your staff, getting spike (spikes spell) attacks with both ends. It might be possible that you could cast shillelagh on a great club.. The spell says on your nonmagical club/quarterstaff, guess that would be up to your DM. Does anyone know offhand if you can duplicate psionic powers as well? or create psionic items as a artificer?
Tealgorthian 10-24-04, 07:23 PM	There are psionics in Eberron, and they dont get the Use Psionic Device skill, so I would assume you cant. I'd rather have a weapon on hand all the time, and not be complete dependent on my wands to do all the work for me. And the TWF chain is too many feats to work into a Artificer build. I'm going to be acting as a party healer as well.
Ruxpin 10-25-04, 02:31 AM	I was under the impression that at the beginning of the day you just persistent spell'd all your buffs up with wands. Wouldnt be to hard to do shillelagh in there as well....
punkurself 10-25-04, 05:40 AM	pardon me, but what is artificer from, so i can figure out what your talking about. :D
7sigma 10-25-04, 10:34 AM	Artificer is a new class introduced by the Eberron setting. The master of all magic items, arcane or divine, the Artificer is soon taking its place as the best min-max material ever conceived. Get it now! :D
Tealgorthian 10-25-04, 12:02 PM	I was under the impression that at the beginning of the day you just persistent spell'd all your buffs up with wands. Wouldnt be to hard to do shillelagh in there as well.... there is. Metamagic Spell item and Metamagic Spell Trigger. But it can still be dispelled :\| While it isnt bad, I can still enchant the club, Spike it, and be okay. I might be a little less effective over all, but I think that the hit to min/max damage is worth a little flexability. pardon me, but what is artificer from, so i can figure out what your talking about. Eberron Camp Setting, Page 30ish. It's a base class that revolves around the Use Magic Device skill, and making items.