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Bard/monk - lvl 7 gnome [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Kreoli
04-05-06, 06:03 PM Name: Dirkir Fagurgali Trymbilsson
Classes and Race:Gnome. 1-4rth (4) lvl; Bard / 5th-7th (3) lvl; Monk
Alignment: Lawful neutral
Concept: Bard that became servant of Obad-hai. I want him to be capable of confusing and charming the enemy but also of dealing and taking some damage in combat.

Attributes:
Str - 11
Dex - 15
Con - 18
Int - 13
Wis - 10
Cha - 16

HP: 58
BAB: +5 (grapple; +1)
Saves: Fort-8 , Ref-9, Will-8
AC: 17 (touch - 17, Flat footed - 15)

Feats: Ascetic Mage, Combat Expertise, Combat Reflexes, Stunning Fist, Weapon Finesse
Special Abilities: Bardic Knowledge, Bardic Music, Evasion, Flurry of blows, Still Mind.

Skills(skill modifier/ranks):
Balance - 5/0
Bluff - 10/7
Concerntration - 9/5
Diplomacy - 15/8
Disguise - 4(6)/1
Hide - 6/0
Intimidate - 5/0
Knowledge (nature) 8/5
Knowledge (religion) - 3/2
Listen - 7/5
Move silently - 5/3
Perform (shawm) - 15/9
Perform (sing) - 4/1
Sense motive - 5/5
Sleight of hand - 5/1
Survival - 7/5
Tumble - 7/5
Languages - 2 ranks (the Character knows: Common, Gnome, Goblin, Orc, Draconic)

Spells known:
0: Detect magic, Ghost Sound, Lullaby, Mage hand, Read magic, Summon Instrument, Touch of Fatigue
1st: Cure light wounds, Charm Person, Disguise self
2nd: Tounges, Minor Image

Equipment: Quarterstaff, Masterwork Shawm, Sling, Monk outfit.

Comments and feedback are more than welcome. To be honest I need a little help with this character, I think he could be better.
GaffeR
04-05-06, 06:10 PM Slight problem: Bards cannot be lawful and Monks must be lawful. This isn't actually a problem, since this character concept is, well, difficult to optimize. I suppose you could just pick either law/neutrality+chaos and not progress any further in the class.

You could use Sorc+Ascetic Mage, or Wizard+Carmendine Monk (Champs of Valor) then get into Enlightened fist. Enlarge person would make you the equivalent of a human monk/wizard, but small monks kinda suck IMO.

Perhaps human Monk 2/ Sorc (Wiz) 3/Enlightened Fist 10/Arcane PrC 5?
Grab either ascetic Mage or Carmendine Monk, the other pre-reqs, practiced spellcaster. Eldritch Knight might work for the last 5 lvls i guess. Arcane Strike would be nice also (what with the flurry).

Enlarge, Buff, Polymorph, go to town.
Xeraph
04-05-06, 06:12 PM Hmm Enlightened fist (Complete Adventurer) might be boon to this character.

Edit: GaffeR beat me to it. :D Sneaky Sneaky.

Some level in Marshal would help you boost your allies. Two Paladin (Enforcer variant) levels would help you out alot, with the saves and all. Charisma synergy you know... Its a hard one, Monk/Bard is not (really not) a good setup for anything.
GaffeR
04-05-06, 06:17 PM Edit: GaffeR beat me to it. :D Sneaky Sneaky.
Thats why they call me the "Posting Ninja"

*Disappears silently in a puff of smoke*
Kreoli
04-05-06, 07:04 PM I know this character is rather gimped, but I was trying to do something with that shawm/quarterstaff concept of obad-hai. I chose gnome because they are supposed to be both excellent bards (their fav. class) and love nature. It bonded the bard and monk a littlebit.
GaffeR
04-05-06, 07:50 PM I know this character is rather gimped, but I was trying to do something with that shawm/quarterstaff concept of obad-hai. I chose gnome because they are supposed to be both excellent bards (their fav. class) and love nature. It bonded the bard and monk a littlebit.
Gnomes aren't really all that great at anything but illusion IMO. They make decent casters, with their small size and +Con, but as for melee, the small stature hurts. Gnomes love nature? God, haven't read the PHB flavor stuff in ages. Isn't obad-hai the knowledge one? or the creation one? God, can't keep my Greyhawk/FR/Eberronian dieties straight.

Anyways, bards are nice buffers for the rest of the melee guys. However, you'll be a better self buffer with Wizard.

Monk 1/Wiz 4/Enlightened Fist 10/Incantatrix 5 is nice. Either That or EK for BAB.
Carmendine Monk, Stunning Fist, Imp Unarmed Strike, Combat Casting, Practiced Spellcaster (Wizard), Arcane Strike.
Then go for Peristent Spell if you use EK and rock the peristent wraithstrikes+antimagic fields. Oh, grab Extraordinary spell aim to pull the AMF trick.

The first gets 9th lvl spells, the second gets 8th.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Kreoli 04-05-06, 06:03 PM	Name: Dirkir Fagurgali Trymbilsson Classes and Race:Gnome. 1-4rth (4) lvl; Bard / 5th-7th (3) lvl; Monk Alignment: Lawful neutral Concept: Bard that became servant of Obad-hai. I want him to be capable of confusing and charming the enemy but also of dealing and taking some damage in combat. Attributes: Str - 11 Dex - 15 Con - 18 Int - 13 Wis - 10 Cha - 16 HP: 58 BAB: +5 (grapple; +1) Saves: Fort-8 , Ref-9, Will-8 AC: 17 (touch - 17, Flat footed - 15) Feats: Ascetic Mage, Combat Expertise, Combat Reflexes, Stunning Fist, Weapon Finesse Special Abilities: Bardic Knowledge, Bardic Music, Evasion, Flurry of blows, Still Mind. Skills(skill modifier/ranks): Balance - 5/0 Bluff - 10/7 Concerntration - 9/5 Diplomacy - 15/8 Disguise - 4(6)/1 Hide - 6/0 Intimidate - 5/0 Knowledge (nature) 8/5 Knowledge (religion) - 3/2 Listen - 7/5 Move silently - 5/3 Perform (shawm) - 15/9 Perform (sing) - 4/1 Sense motive - 5/5 Sleight of hand - 5/1 Survival - 7/5 Tumble - 7/5 Languages - 2 ranks (the Character knows: Common, Gnome, Goblin, Orc, Draconic) Spells known: 0: Detect magic, Ghost Sound, Lullaby, Mage hand, Read magic, Summon Instrument, Touch of Fatigue 1st: Cure light wounds, Charm Person, Disguise self 2nd: Tounges, Minor Image Equipment: Quarterstaff, Masterwork Shawm, Sling, Monk outfit. Comments and feedback are more than welcome. To be honest I need a little help with this character, I think he could be better.
GaffeR 04-05-06, 06:10 PM	Slight problem: Bards cannot be lawful and Monks must be lawful. This isn't actually a problem, since this character concept is, well, difficult to optimize. I suppose you could just pick either law/neutrality+chaos and not progress any further in the class. You could use Sorc+Ascetic Mage, or Wizard+Carmendine Monk (Champs of Valor) then get into Enlightened fist. Enlarge person would make you the equivalent of a human monk/wizard, but small monks kinda suck IMO. Perhaps human Monk 2/ Sorc (Wiz) 3/Enlightened Fist 10/Arcane PrC 5? Grab either ascetic Mage or Carmendine Monk, the other pre-reqs, practiced spellcaster. Eldritch Knight might work for the last 5 lvls i guess. Arcane Strike would be nice also (what with the flurry). Enlarge, Buff, Polymorph, go to town.
Xeraph 04-05-06, 06:12 PM	Hmm Enlightened fist (Complete Adventurer) might be boon to this character. Edit: GaffeR beat me to it. :D Sneaky Sneaky. Some level in Marshal would help you boost your allies. Two Paladin (Enforcer variant) levels would help you out alot, with the saves and all. Charisma synergy you know... Its a hard one, Monk/Bard is not (really not) a good setup for anything.
GaffeR 04-05-06, 06:17 PM	Edit: GaffeR beat me to it. :D Sneaky Sneaky. Thats why they call me the "Posting Ninja" Disappears silently in a puff of smoke
Kreoli 04-05-06, 07:04 PM	I know this character is rather gimped, but I was trying to do something with that shawm/quarterstaff concept of obad-hai. I chose gnome because they are supposed to be both excellent bards (their fav. class) and love nature. It bonded the bard and monk a littlebit.
GaffeR 04-05-06, 07:50 PM	I know this character is rather gimped, but I was trying to do something with that shawm/quarterstaff concept of obad-hai. I chose gnome because they are supposed to be both excellent bards (their fav. class) and love nature. It bonded the bard and monk a littlebit. Gnomes aren't really all that great at anything but illusion IMO. They make decent casters, with their small size and +Con, but as for melee, the small stature hurts. Gnomes love nature? God, haven't read the PHB flavor stuff in ages. Isn't obad-hai the knowledge one? or the creation one? God, can't keep my Greyhawk/FR/Eberronian dieties straight. Anyways, bards are nice buffers for the rest of the melee guys. However, you'll be a better self buffer with Wizard. Monk 1/Wiz 4/Enlightened Fist 10/Incantatrix 5 is nice. Either That or EK for BAB. Carmendine Monk, Stunning Fist, Imp Unarmed Strike, Combat Casting, Practiced Spellcaster (Wizard), Arcane Strike. Then go for Peristent Spell if you use EK and rock the peristent wraithstrikes+antimagic fields. Oh, grab Extraordinary spell aim to pull the AMF trick. The first gets 9th lvl spells, the second gets 8th.