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Matt Neuman 01-30-04, 07:32 PM	What I was going for here was a strong song and dance man with sorceror spellcasting. Bard 2/Sorcerer 3/Spelldancer 5/Spellsinger 5/Virtuoso 5 Caster Level: Bard 2 Sorceror 18 Special Abilities: Bardic music Bardic knowledge Countersong Fascinate Inspire competence Suggestion Inspire courage +2 Inspire greatness Song of freedom Compelling Song Spellsong Improved Countersong Amplified Music Spelldance Enthralling dance Evasion Cooperative Dance Sleep Dance Confusing Dance Sustaining Song Calumny Jarring Song Sharp Note Human 1-Brd 1-Skill Focus (Perform), Combat Casting 2-Sor 1- 3-Sor 2-Improved Counterspell 4-Sor 3- 5-Brd 2- 6-SGR 1-Dodge 7-SGR 2- 8-SGR 3- 9-VIR 1-Mobility 10-VIR 2- 11-VIR 3- 12-VIR 4-Endurance 13-SDC 1- 14-SDC 2- 15-SDC 3-Extend Spell* 16-SDC 4- 17-SDC 5- 18-SGR 4-Persistant Spell* 19-SGR 5- 20-VIR 5- *Notes about Feat Selection: I've gone with persistant spell and extend to get some use out of the spelldance ability, although if you aren't into buffing yourself, you could (depending on spell selection) easily choose any other two metamagic feats here. General Notes: You could drop either spellsinger or spelldancer and crank your virtuoso up to 10 levels, which would probably result in a slightly more 'powerful' build, due to freeing up feats mainly, but I like this combo for it's wide range of complementary abilities. If I were going straight into epic though this would be the way to go.
Super Grover 01-30-04, 07:56 PM	you could drop bard altogether and take the cosmopolitan feat to gain perform as a class skill from frcs. Sorcerer 5/Spelldancer 5/Spellsinger 5/Virtuoso 5 will get you 9th level spells faster you would lose bardic knowledge but you still gain bard songs from spell singer and virtuoso. if you wanted more bardic music you can drop spell dancer and level up virtuoso to 10 and get 15 levels of bard songs and the other cool songs from virtuoso.
Matt Neuman 01-30-04, 11:29 PM	I thought about cosmopolitan, but it's a feat expenditure you need for other things, and without the bard levels your other skill requirements (tumble, etc) get a lot harder to scape up. Also, you don't get access to music until somewhat late in your career for an entertainment based character.
Matt Neuman 01-31-04, 02:57 PM	The other option would be to swap out the second bard level with rogue, to pick up a sneak attack die, and a couple of extra skill points.
creepy drifter 01-31-04, 03:45 PM	i'm highly dissapointed that you could not include a level of Bladesinger and Sworddancer ... tsk, tsk... can't your baseline go Bard-1 Sorceror-4 instead of B2-S3? with a high Charisma, it sould not be a problem.
Matt Neuman 01-31-04, 06:32 PM	can't your baseline go Bard-1 Sorceror-4 instead of B2-S3? with a high Charisma, it sould not be a problem. Then you run into problems meeting the skill pre-reqs.