Bardic suggestion [Archive] - Wizards Community

Bardic suggestion [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Dark Brandon
09-24-06, 04:19 AM What feats or things can one do in 3.5 to raise suggestions DC besides raising cha?

All complete, Races, core, and Heroes of ~ are allowed.

I'm not sure also, but could someone clear this up for me.

Ability Focus in Monsters manual, will that increase the DC?

How about Dragonsong from Draconomicon?
gorfnad the shiznit
09-24-06, 04:38 AM Not sure about ability focus but dragonsong would raise the DC by +2.
Raphael_Maure
09-24-06, 10:29 AM What feats or things can one do in 3.5 to raise suggestions DC besides raising cha?

From Book of Exalted Deeds: Vow of Nonviolence feat, Saint template.:angel:

Ability Focus in Monsters manual, will that increase the DC?

I don't think so.
EDIT: I was thinking spell. If you're talking Bardic Music, then Ability Focus should work.
Hanniball
09-24-06, 12:23 PM BoED also has Words of Creation. Not only an excellent feat by itself, it also increases the DC of suggestion by +2.
X-Codes
09-24-06, 09:14 PM Don't forget to play a Bard 20 instead of PrCing because the save DC works off your class level. This also nets you Mass Suggestion.

Don't forget that you have to Fascinate your opponents, first. This is tough to do in situations where your opponents are unfriendly or hostile. If you don't want to play a Bard 20, or even a Bard 10, then the Suggestion and Mass Suggestion spells are better.
Dark Brandon
09-25-06, 02:51 AM I'm actually gonna go bard 18, and perhaps Marshal 1 and Dragonshaman 1 (for the auras). I won't lose more than 2 levels though. Also, marshal gives free skill focus (diplomacy) and my bard is gonna be face, such as with marshal, I get minor aura "Modivate Charisma", which grants my bard a +4 to all his charisma skills.
Kamikaze Chicken
09-26-06, 10:19 AM this a spell from Races of eberon, it is nic ebecause if the target saves vs the suggestion, it repeats again on their turn till they fail the check or the duration expires. i know it isnt the baric music ability... but it is a nice way of wensuring the suggestion gets through..

KAMIKAZE! :chicken:

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Dark Brandon 09-24-06, 04:19 AM	What feats or things can one do in 3.5 to raise suggestions DC besides raising cha? All complete, Races, core, and Heroes of ~ are allowed. I'm not sure also, but could someone clear this up for me. Ability Focus in Monsters manual, will that increase the DC? How about Dragonsong from Draconomicon?
gorfnad the shiznit 09-24-06, 04:38 AM	Not sure about ability focus but dragonsong would raise the DC by +2.
Raphael_Maure 09-24-06, 10:29 AM	What feats or things can one do in 3.5 to raise suggestions DC besides raising cha? From Book of Exalted Deeds: Vow of Nonviolence feat, Saint template.:angel: Ability Focus in Monsters manual, will that increase the DC? I don't think so. EDIT: I was thinking spell. If you're talking Bardic Music, then Ability Focus should work.
Hanniball 09-24-06, 12:23 PM	BoED also has Words of Creation. Not only an excellent feat by itself, it also increases the DC of suggestion by +2.
X-Codes 09-24-06, 09:14 PM	Don't forget to play a Bard 20 instead of PrCing because the save DC works off your class level. This also nets you Mass Suggestion. Don't forget that you have to Fascinate your opponents, first. This is tough to do in situations where your opponents are unfriendly or hostile. If you don't want to play a Bard 20, or even a Bard 10, then the Suggestion and Mass Suggestion spells are better.
Dark Brandon 09-25-06, 02:51 AM	I'm actually gonna go bard 18, and perhaps Marshal 1 and Dragonshaman 1 (for the auras). I won't lose more than 2 levels though. Also, marshal gives free skill focus (diplomacy) and my bard is gonna be face, such as with marshal, I get minor aura "Modivate Charisma", which grants my bard a +4 to all his charisma skills.
Kamikaze Chicken 09-26-06, 10:19 AM	this a spell from Races of eberon, it is nic ebecause if the target saves vs the suggestion, it repeats again on their turn till they fail the check or the duration expires. i know it isnt the baric music ability... but it is a nice way of wensuring the suggestion gets through.. KAMIKAZE! :chicken: