Base Save of 40: 20 Classes [Archive] - Wizards Community

Base Save of 40: 20 Classes [Archive] - Wizards Community

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warpdragon
08-25-05, 02:57 PM If a class has a good progression on a save the first level grants a +2 bonus. Is it possible to take 20 levels in 20 different classes all with one shared good save, making a base save of 40?
Vestigial_Thumb
08-25-05, 03:28 PM If a class has a good progression on a save the first level grants a +2 bonus. Is it possible to take 20 levels in 20 different classes all with one shared good save, making a base save of 40?
Well, yeah. Actually, with fractional saves, 50.
Medicelious-Melharmonac
08-25-05, 03:40 PM If a class has a good progression on a save the first level grants a +2 bonus. Is it possible to take 20 levels in 20 different classes all with one shared good save, making a base save of 40?

Fortitude:

1 Fighter - Endurance, Mounted Combat for Purple Dragon Knight
2 Druid
3 Barb - (becomes Ex- Barb)
4 Monk - Skill Focus (Handle Animal)
5 Paladin
6 Ranger - Track for Bloodhound, Power Attack
7 Stonewarden - (Dwarf, 5 bab, Endurance)
8 Cleric - Weapon Focus (Dwarven War Axe)
9 Samari - Dodge
10 Swashbuckler -
11 Beastmaster - (Skill Focus (Handle Animal))
12 Bloodhound - Negotiator (Endurance, Track, BAB4)
13 Wild Plains Outrider - (Animal Companion, Track, Mounted Combat)
14 Bear Warrior - (Rage, Power Attack)
15 Darkwood Stalker - Toughness (Dodge,Track, BAB5)
16 Exotic Weapon Master - (WF(Exotic), BAB6)
17 Hunter of the Dead - (Turn Undead, BAB5)
18 Purple Dragon Knight - (Negotiator, Mount Combat)
19 Dwarven Defender - (Endurance, Toughness, Dodge, BAB7)
20 Stonelord - (Endurance, BAB5)

Items in Italic are the Prereqs for the PRCs.
warpdragon
08-25-05, 03:51 PM Did you have that sitting arround or did you just do that?

And with the fractional saves, shouldn't the saves be lower than normal if they are above 12? I dont have my book with me, but alright.

Any other saves? Reflex? Will?
eudas
08-25-05, 04:01 PM other than "as a mind experiment", my question is simple: Why would you want to? :P

eudas
yoritomoshomey
08-25-05, 04:17 PM Fortitude:

1 Fighter - Endurance, Mounted Combat for Purple Dragon Knight
2 Druid
3 Barb - (becomes Ex- Barb)
4 Monk - Skill Focus (Handle Animal)
5 Paladin
6 Ranger - Track for Bloodhound, Power Attack
7 Stonewarden - (Dwarf, 5 bab, Endurance)
8 Cleric - Weapon Focus (Dwarven War Axe)
9 Samari - Dodge
10 Swashbuckler -
11 Beastmaster - (Skill Focus (Handle Animal))
12 Bloodhound - Negotiator (Endurance, Track, BAB4)
13 Wild Plains Outrider - (Animal Companion, Track, Mounted Combat)
14 Bear Warrior - (Rage, Power Attack)
15 Darkwood Stalker - Toughness (Dodge,Track, BAB5)
16 Exotic Weapon Master - (WF(Exotic), BAB6)
17 Hunter of the Dead - (Turn Undead, BAB5)
18 Purple Dragon Knight - (Negotiator, Mount Combat)
19 Dwarven Defender - (Endurance, Toughness, Dodge, BAB7)
20 Stonelord - (Endurance, BAB5)

Items in Italic are the Prereqs for the PRCs.

Darkwood Stalker has Elf or Half-Elf as a prerequisite. Some of your other classes need to be a Dwarf.

Also, if a Barbarian becomes an ex-Barbarian it loses the ability to rage. The Bear Warrior has the ability to rage or frenzy as a prerequisite.

Last, did you see if any skill prerequisites could be met?

Dave

p.s.-I'm working on a build also, but my races books are at home at the moment.
Erudite
08-25-05, 04:56 PM I'm sure something along the lines of a Gloura Marshall/Paladin/Witch Hunter gets you 3x Cha to all saves, and an additional Cha to any save of your choice, or Hexblade/Blackguard gets you something like +Chax3 to saves, plus is actually useful. With Cha of 37 that is +39 to two saves, and +52 to one other. This is without other stat mods, base saves, spells, or equipment. That is at least another +15 each, so bare minimum +67/+54/+54. If this is your cohort, you can use one of the exalted feats to share her grace save bonuses with yourself.
Skadrian
08-26-05, 04:39 AM there was a thread asking for something like this some weeks ago and finaly some two (dont remember their names) made a save of 200+ to all three saves
Medicelious-Melharmonac
08-26-05, 08:48 AM Last, did you see if any skill prerequisites could be met?

I missed the Elven requirement on darkwood stalker.
I missed the rage thing other than that the italics are the prerequisites.

Replace Darkwood Stalker with StoneBlessed Dwarf and Bear Warrior with Bear Lord (Animal Lord)

1 Fighter - Endurance, Mounted Combat
2 Druid
3 Barb - (becomes Ex- Barb)
4 Monk - Skill Focus (Handle Animal)
5 Paladin
6 Ranger - Track, Power Attack
7 Stonewarden - (Dwarf, BAB5, Endurance)
8 Cleric - Weapon Focus (Dwarven War Axe)
9 Samari - Dodge
10 Swashbuckler -
11 Beastmaster - (Skill Focus (Handle Animal))
12 Bloodhound - Negotiator (Endurance, Track, BAB4)
13 Wild Plains Outrider - (Animal Companion, Track, Mounted Combat)
14 Bear Lord (Animal Lord)- (Endurance)
15 Stone Blessed Dwarf - Toughness (Speak Dwarven, Speak Terran)
16 Exotic Weapon Master - (WF(Exotic), BAB6)
17 Hunter of the Dead - (Turn Undead, BAB5)
18 Purple Dragon Knight - (Negotiator, Mount Combat)
19 Dwarven Defender - (Endurance, Toughness, Dodge, BAB7)
20 Stonelord - (Endurance, BAB5)

Items in Italic are the Prereqs for the PRCs.

It was about a 10 minute effort to put this one together. The Will Save one is something I am struggling to come up with.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
warpdragon 08-25-05, 02:57 PM	If a class has a good progression on a save the first level grants a +2 bonus. Is it possible to take 20 levels in 20 different classes all with one shared good save, making a base save of 40?
Vestigial_Thumb 08-25-05, 03:28 PM	If a class has a good progression on a save the first level grants a +2 bonus. Is it possible to take 20 levels in 20 different classes all with one shared good save, making a base save of 40? Well, yeah. Actually, with fractional saves, 50.
Medicelious-Melharmonac 08-25-05, 03:40 PM	If a class has a good progression on a save the first level grants a +2 bonus. Is it possible to take 20 levels in 20 different classes all with one shared good save, making a base save of 40? Fortitude: 1 Fighter - Endurance, Mounted Combat for Purple Dragon Knight 2 Druid 3 Barb - (becomes Ex- Barb) 4 Monk - Skill Focus (Handle Animal) 5 Paladin 6 Ranger - Track for Bloodhound, Power Attack 7 Stonewarden - (Dwarf, 5 bab, Endurance) 8 Cleric - Weapon Focus (Dwarven War Axe) 9 Samari - Dodge 10 Swashbuckler - 11 Beastmaster - (Skill Focus (Handle Animal)) 12 Bloodhound - Negotiator (Endurance, Track, BAB4) 13 Wild Plains Outrider - (Animal Companion, Track, Mounted Combat) 14 Bear Warrior - (Rage, Power Attack) 15 Darkwood Stalker - Toughness (Dodge,Track, BAB5) 16 Exotic Weapon Master - (WF(Exotic), BAB6) 17 Hunter of the Dead - (Turn Undead, BAB5) 18 Purple Dragon Knight - (Negotiator, Mount Combat) 19 Dwarven Defender - (Endurance, Toughness, Dodge, BAB7) 20 Stonelord - (Endurance, BAB5) Items in Italic are the Prereqs for the PRCs.
warpdragon 08-25-05, 03:51 PM	Did you have that sitting arround or did you just do that? And with the fractional saves, shouldn't the saves be lower than normal if they are above 12? I dont have my book with me, but alright. Any other saves? Reflex? Will?
eudas 08-25-05, 04:01 PM	other than "as a mind experiment", my question is simple: Why would you want to? :P eudas
yoritomoshomey 08-25-05, 04:17 PM	Fortitude: 1 Fighter - Endurance, Mounted Combat for Purple Dragon Knight 2 Druid 3 Barb - (becomes Ex- Barb) 4 Monk - Skill Focus (Handle Animal) 5 Paladin 6 Ranger - Track for Bloodhound, Power Attack 7 Stonewarden - (Dwarf, 5 bab, Endurance) 8 Cleric - Weapon Focus (Dwarven War Axe) 9 Samari - Dodge 10 Swashbuckler - 11 Beastmaster - (Skill Focus (Handle Animal)) 12 Bloodhound - Negotiator (Endurance, Track, BAB4) 13 Wild Plains Outrider - (Animal Companion, Track, Mounted Combat) 14 Bear Warrior - (Rage, Power Attack) 15 Darkwood Stalker - Toughness (Dodge,Track, BAB5) 16 Exotic Weapon Master - (WF(Exotic), BAB6) 17 Hunter of the Dead - (Turn Undead, BAB5) 18 Purple Dragon Knight - (Negotiator, Mount Combat) 19 Dwarven Defender - (Endurance, Toughness, Dodge, BAB7) 20 Stonelord - (Endurance, BAB5) Items in Italic are the Prereqs for the PRCs. Darkwood Stalker has Elf or Half-Elf as a prerequisite. Some of your other classes need to be a Dwarf. Also, if a Barbarian becomes an ex-Barbarian it loses the ability to rage. The Bear Warrior has the ability to rage or frenzy as a prerequisite. Last, did you see if any skill prerequisites could be met? Dave p.s.-I'm working on a build also, but my races books are at home at the moment.
Erudite 08-25-05, 04:56 PM	I'm sure something along the lines of a Gloura Marshall/Paladin/Witch Hunter gets you 3x Cha to all saves, and an additional Cha to any save of your choice, or Hexblade/Blackguard gets you something like +Chax3 to saves, plus is actually useful. With Cha of 37 that is +39 to two saves, and +52 to one other. This is without other stat mods, base saves, spells, or equipment. That is at least another +15 each, so bare minimum +67/+54/+54. If this is your cohort, you can use one of the exalted feats to share her grace save bonuses with yourself.
Skadrian 08-26-05, 04:39 AM	there was a thread asking for something like this some weeks ago and finaly some two (dont remember their names) made a save of 200+ to all three saves
Medicelious-Melharmonac 08-26-05, 08:48 AM	Last, did you see if any skill prerequisites could be met? I missed the Elven requirement on darkwood stalker. I missed the rage thing other than that the italics are the prerequisites. Replace Darkwood Stalker with StoneBlessed Dwarf and Bear Warrior with Bear Lord (Animal Lord) 1 Fighter - Endurance, Mounted Combat 2 Druid 3 Barb - (becomes Ex- Barb) 4 Monk - Skill Focus (Handle Animal) 5 Paladin 6 Ranger - Track, Power Attack 7 Stonewarden - (Dwarf, BAB5, Endurance) 8 Cleric - Weapon Focus (Dwarven War Axe) 9 Samari - Dodge 10 Swashbuckler - 11 Beastmaster - (Skill Focus (Handle Animal)) 12 Bloodhound - Negotiator (Endurance, Track, BAB4) 13 Wild Plains Outrider - (Animal Companion, Track, Mounted Combat) 14 Bear Lord (Animal Lord)- (Endurance) 15 Stone Blessed Dwarf - Toughness (Speak Dwarven, Speak Terran) 16 Exotic Weapon Master - (WF(Exotic), BAB6) 17 Hunter of the Dead - (Turn Undead, BAB5) 18 Purple Dragon Knight - (Negotiator, Mount Combat) 19 Dwarven Defender - (Endurance, Toughness, Dodge, BAB7) 20 Stonelord - (Endurance, BAB5) Items in Italic are the Prereqs for the PRCs. It was about a 10 minute effort to put this one together. The Will Save one is something I am struggling to come up with.