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McBAMF
02-01-07, 01:34 AM I'm thinking of making a melee cleric for an upcoming Ravenloft set in Eberron game. The party consists of this:

Warforged Artificer
Human Cleric (Silver Flame), basically the Primary Healer
Elf Wizard Abjurer
An undetermined Melee class
and myself

All start at 6th level with 9,750 gold total to spend at creation

The stats I rolled are as follows: 15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 10 and 1 point not added from 4th level.

The thing is, I really want to play a Speaker of the Sovereign Host from Faiths of Eberron. I think the extra domains are really cool and can open up a lot of possibilities. I have access to almost any book but I can only use prestige classes from Eberron and I don't honestly see this campaign going past 12th level. I'm looking for suggestions for feats, gear, stat placement, domains, and spells. I would appreciate any help.

Build so far:
Undeath, Planning Domains
1Cleric 1: Worldy Focus(prereq. SovHost), Extra Turning, Extra Turning (Undeath Domain bonus), Extend Spell(Planning)
2Cleric 2:
3Cleric 3: Persistent Spell
4Cleric 4:
5Cleric 5:
6SSH 1: Divine Metamagic (Persistent Spell)

I'm not really sure what Domains to take and I would really appreciate some thought on that. I don't know if my DM will let me have anything out of Libris Mortis so I don't know if Nightsticks will be available.
Bearded_baddy
02-01-07, 01:50 AM Take the Planning Domain and get Extend Spell for Free!

I like the Time Domain as it gives you Improved Initiative. The War Domain will give you Weapon Prof./Weapon Focus (Deities weapon or Weapon tied to alignment if no deity) for your melee focused idea.

Destruction Domain will allow you to have a non-specific smite once per day which you can use the Extra Smiting Feat to get more smites per day if you like that kind of extra melee damage.
smage
02-01-07, 02:17 AM My advice: if you go with Planning, don't go with Time (and vice versa, obviously).

However, it looks like you're going to need to squeeze Extra Turning in there if you want to use DMM(Persistent) even 1/day (since you need either a base Cha of 18 or Extra Turning to have 7 or more turnings/day), so you're just about stuck going with Planning or something that grants Extra Turning (e.g. Undeath Domain from Libris Mortis) or enough of a Cha boost to bump turnings/day up to 7 (e.g. +4 Cha for 1 min from the Charm domain in Eberron, assuming a 14 or greater Cha).

If your DM isn't very savvy, you could try convincing him that alternate turning should count for using DMM (like turning Water creatures) and effectively double your number of DMM uses per day (assuming you gain Extra Turning from the 2nd Domain). He'd have to be a fool to allow it, though.

You're really hurting for feats by going with DMM so early, so see if your DM will let you take Flaws from UA (-2 to ranged attacks, or -2 to melee attacks if you go with a ranged weapon, and -4 to Spot/Listen will probably hurt you least) for a couple of extra feats. Then, you can either cheese it out (2x Extra Turning for an extra DMM) or take combat-oriented feats.
tacoronte
02-01-07, 03:22 AM Keep in mind that Sovereign Speaker does not advance Undead Turning, which can be a major drawback on an undead-heavy campaign like Ravenloft.

Oh, and you can't worship the Silver Flame and become a Sovereign Speaker :)
Hack and Smasher
02-01-07, 07:53 AM Turning doesn't work anyway in revanloft unless you got the plyactary of undead turning or some such (note if you got that focusing on turning is great in revanloft and take radient servant is recommend)

I second planning domain and extra turning
McBAMF
02-01-07, 10:58 AM Thanks alot for the suggestions. Yeah, I was never planning on using my turn attempts to actually turn undead. The Planning and Undeath domains are just too good not to take for my build. I'm pretty sure my DM won't let us have flaws and I'm almost positive that he won't let me use the specific turns (air, sun, etc.) for regular turn attempts.

Number of turn attempts: 3+3(assuming 16 charisma)+4 (Extra turn feat)+4(Extra turn Undeath domain bonus)+4 Nightstick(if acquired)=18

This should net me 3 decent buffs per day. Thanks for the help. Oh yeah, I have a third domain to pick (from the Sovereign Host Pantheon) at level 6. I would appreciate anymore suggestions.

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McBAMF 02-01-07, 01:34 AM	I'm thinking of making a melee cleric for an upcoming Ravenloft set in Eberron game. The party consists of this: Warforged Artificer Human Cleric (Silver Flame), basically the Primary Healer Elf Wizard Abjurer An undetermined Melee class and myself All start at 6th level with 9,750 gold total to spend at creation The stats I rolled are as follows: 15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 10 and 1 point not added from 4th level. The thing is, I really want to play a Speaker of the Sovereign Host from Faiths of Eberron. I think the extra domains are really cool and can open up a lot of possibilities. I have access to almost any book but I can only use prestige classes from Eberron and I don't honestly see this campaign going past 12th level. I'm looking for suggestions for feats, gear, stat placement, domains, and spells. I would appreciate any help. Build so far: Undeath, Planning Domains 1Cleric 1: Worldy Focus(prereq. SovHost), Extra Turning, Extra Turning (Undeath Domain bonus), Extend Spell(Planning) 2Cleric 2: 3Cleric 3: Persistent Spell 4Cleric 4: 5Cleric 5: 6SSH 1: Divine Metamagic (Persistent Spell) I'm not really sure what Domains to take and I would really appreciate some thought on that. I don't know if my DM will let me have anything out of Libris Mortis so I don't know if Nightsticks will be available.
Bearded_baddy 02-01-07, 01:50 AM	Take the Planning Domain and get Extend Spell for Free! I like the Time Domain as it gives you Improved Initiative. The War Domain will give you Weapon Prof./Weapon Focus (Deities weapon or Weapon tied to alignment if no deity) for your melee focused idea. Destruction Domain will allow you to have a non-specific smite once per day which you can use the Extra Smiting Feat to get more smites per day if you like that kind of extra melee damage.
smage 02-01-07, 02:17 AM	My advice: if you go with Planning, don't go with Time (and vice versa, obviously). However, it looks like you're going to need to squeeze Extra Turning in there if you want to use DMM(Persistent) even 1/day (since you need either a base Cha of 18 or Extra Turning to have 7 or more turnings/day), so you're just about stuck going with Planning or something that grants Extra Turning (e.g. Undeath Domain from Libris Mortis) or enough of a Cha boost to bump turnings/day up to 7 (e.g. +4 Cha for 1 min from the Charm domain in Eberron, assuming a 14 or greater Cha). If your DM isn't very savvy, you could try convincing him that alternate turning should count for using DMM (like turning Water creatures) and effectively double your number of DMM uses per day (assuming you gain Extra Turning from the 2nd Domain). He'd have to be a fool to allow it, though. You're really hurting for feats by going with DMM so early, so see if your DM will let you take Flaws from UA (-2 to ranged attacks, or -2 to melee attacks if you go with a ranged weapon, and -4 to Spot/Listen will probably hurt you least) for a couple of extra feats. Then, you can either cheese it out (2x Extra Turning for an extra DMM) or take combat-oriented feats.
tacoronte 02-01-07, 03:22 AM	Keep in mind that Sovereign Speaker does not advance Undead Turning, which can be a major drawback on an undead-heavy campaign like Ravenloft. Oh, and you can't worship the Silver Flame and become a Sovereign Speaker :)
Hack and Smasher 02-01-07, 07:53 AM	Turning doesn't work anyway in revanloft unless you got the plyactary of undead turning or some such (note if you got that focusing on turning is great in revanloft and take radient servant is recommend) I second planning domain and extra turning
McBAMF 02-01-07, 10:58 AM	Thanks alot for the suggestions. Yeah, I was never planning on using my turn attempts to actually turn undead. The Planning and Undeath domains are just too good not to take for my build. I'm pretty sure my DM won't let us have flaws and I'm almost positive that he won't let me use the specific turns (air, sun, etc.) for regular turn attempts. Number of turn attempts: 3+3(assuming 16 charisma)+4 (Extra turn feat)+4(Extra turn Undeath domain bonus)+4 Nightstick(if acquired)=18 This should net me 3 decent buffs per day. Thanks for the help. Oh yeah, I have a third domain to pick (from the Sovereign Host Pantheon) at level 6. I would appreciate anymore suggestions.