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CanineLord 01-01-06, 10:20 PM	Note: This build only works if you agree that Divine Minion qualifies for Master of Many Forms. Divine Champion of Anhur Cloistered Cleric 1/Class X/MoMF 3/Chameleon 10/MoMF 5 (Class X needs to have bluff on its skill list; DM must agree that Planning is a legitimate choice for a follower of Anhur) Feats: Alertness (human), Able Learner (1st), Extend Spell (bonus), Endurance (3rd), Persistent Spell (6th), Divine Metamagic (9th), Natural Spell (12th), feat? (15th), feat? (18th) Chameleon's already have the ability to act like anyone else, MoMF let's the Chameleon be anyone else. While entering Chameleon with only 3 levels of MoMF, this build would still be able to wildshape into creature's equal to character level, due to the +11 effective druid wildshape levels granted by Divine Minion. Wildshaping also lets this Chameleon build focus on Int, Wis and Cha. Any ideas for getting Bluff before level 6? Right now I'm thinking one level of Hexblade, to mitigate BAB loss. Also looking for ideas for feats at level 15 and 18. Thanks :)
catharz 01-01-06, 10:36 PM	At least one of the deities should have Trickery as a possible domain, which gives Bluff & Disguise as class skills, which combines nicely with Able Learner. So the build is Divine Minion of [whoever] Cloistered Cleric 1/MoMF 4/Chameleon 10.
CanineLord 01-01-06, 10:48 PM	Yes, there is one deity: Sharess. Unfortunately, her Divine Minions are +2 ECL. I anticipate starting a low level campaign, and the current Anthur +1 ECL is hard enough to swallow (even with UA buyoff). I don't think a +2 would be worth it. :cool:
catharz 01-01-06, 11:35 PM	Yes, there is one deity: Sharess. Unfortunately, her Divine Minions are +2 ECL. I anticipate starting a low level campaign, and the current Anthur +1 ECL is hard enough to swallow (even with UA buyoff). I don't think a +2 would be worth it. :cool: Point taken! One level more is far better than an extra LA for a domain.
Surreal 01-02-06, 12:08 AM	Why not human paragon for the skills then?
Rass Frostwhisper 01-02-06, 12:37 AM	Or a good old warlock, unless there are some alignment restrictions I'm not aware of.
Urnsk 01-02-06, 05:48 AM	Grab a flaw, and take the "Skill Knowledge" feat from UA. Make it bluff.
CanineLord 01-02-06, 06:00 AM	Gotta love those flaws. I'll certainly take those if available. Any ideas for the level 15 and 18 (and free flaw) feats?
Reinhart 01-02-06, 10:46 PM	For thematic reasons, if you're set on being a Cleric, then you really should take the Tranformation Domain from Races of Eberron. It's not offered by any god, it's only accessible to clerics who have the ability to change shape.
Iaimeki 01-04-06, 12:32 PM	Divine Champion of Anhur Cloistered Cleric 1/Class X/MoMF 3/Chameleon 10/MoMF 5 Wouldn't it be better if you went chameleon 8/MoMF 7? That gets double aptitude and extraordinary special qualities from MoMF.
CanineLord 01-06-06, 03:09 AM	:bump:
X-Codes 01-06-06, 03:19 AM	Wouldn't it be better if you went chameleon 8/MoMF 7? That gets double aptitude and extraordinary special qualities from MoMF. He's already getting Chameleon 10/MoMF 7. MoMF 8 if he uses LA buyoff. Of course, if he does that then theres no reason for Class X either as, in the end, he picks up Bluff from Cloistered Cleric and the Trickery Domain and can go to MoMF 9. Oh, checking back I see a problem. You cannot take a level of a PrC the same level you qualify for it, that third level Endurance feat has got to be moved up regardless of whether or not you put in a level of Class X.