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v4l3r1o 11-24-05, 09:36 AM	What is, in your opinion, the best prestige class for a wizard and why: 1)10 levels PRC? 2)5 levels PRC? I think that archmege, geometer, fatespinner and recaster are very good 5lev PRC; Incantarix and Dweomerkeeper for 10lev. Any other suggestion? Thank's :)
Aramas 11-24-05, 10:06 AM	War Weaver is a 5 level class from HoB. It doesn't fit either of your categories, but Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil is a very nice PrC as well.
El_Machinae 11-24-05, 11:01 AM	There are very few 'good' 10 level PrCs for Arcane Casters, but if you do find one, you often don't need a 'good' 5 level PrC, because hoping around is much better. Often a five level PrC is better to get in and out after a level or two, especially before you lose a caster level. Personally, I like how 'balanced' Loremaster is, but it's certainly not great. Divine Oracle is a favourite with me as well, it's well worth staying in, because every level is better than a level of wizard. I often wish there was an 'arcane theurge' kinda class that progressed casting in two different arcane classes.
Timothy Nicolle 11-24-05, 01:21 PM	Try a initiate of the 7 fold veil. Or you can multiclass barbarian/warmage. And if you want a okay BAB choose Eldritch Knight.
Portuguese D. Ace 11-24-05, 01:42 PM	i love a lot of prcs.... Eldicht knight first level of dragonslayer first level of spellsword phantom knight incantatrix RED MAGE and i LOVE warmage -from age of mortals (dragonlance)
runestar 11-25-05, 05:59 AM	1) I have always been a personal fan of incantatrix(PGTF version). Roleplayingwise, I wouldn't mind a red wizard or shadow adept. 2) Archmage isn't too bad, despite the harsh prerequisites. Perhaps arcane devotee.
X-Codes 11-25-05, 07:02 AM	I kinda like Wayfarer Guide. Second level isn't that great, but the first and third levels have some useful abilities for mid-level arcanists tasked with transporting the party around. The second level also doesn't hurt as much as a normal non-progression level until a few levels after the class is completed (15ish or so, really). In other words, theres hardly a single better PrC to tack on your Cohort (especially since it comes in right after the Incantatrix 4 cutoff, probably the second-best point at which to end that PrC).
DruidWannabe 11-25-05, 09:15 AM	and i LOVE warmage -from age of mortals (dragonlance) Excellent five level PrC if you have that book.
OGS-Remix 11-25-05, 11:52 AM	Depending on how your DM interprets the errata for Complete Divine, Rainbow Servant is a good 10th level prestige class if you get full spellcasting progression.
Iaimeki 11-25-05, 12:24 PM	Incantatrix. Initiate of the sevenfold veil. Archmage. Recaster. Fatespinner. There are a few other good PrCs, but they're all for gishes (spellsword, eldritch knight), dips (shadow adept), or specialized builds (shadowcrafter, shadowcraft mage, war weaver). Everything else either sucks or fills levels only (geometer, divine oracle, loremaster).
Taliesin52 11-26-05, 01:13 AM	Recaster, Incantatrix of course. I'm also a big fan of the... Phantom Mage? The mounted gishy PrC from Five Nations. Initiate of the Seven Fold Veil is also a good one as well. Flavorwise, I think the Apocalypse Mage from Eberron Explorer's Handbook is pretty darn cool.
Timlagor 11-26-05, 02:54 AM	* Fatespinner is a great *FOUR* level PrC (there is a 5th level but it sucks) * Iot7V is a great 7 level one. * Geometer really isn't that powerful but it has a very nice flavour. * Loremaster is nice for flavour and is quite powerful enough in it's own way: although certainly isn't top tier in straight-up battle-power, it's got very nice skills and knowledge should not be underestimated. * DO is great for 2 levels (esp before Loremaster) and not bad overall. * Blood Magus looks fun. * Incantrix and True Necromancer are silly-powerful from what I've heard of them.
Timlagor 11-26-05, 02:57 AM	Depending on how your DM interprets the errata for Complete Divine, Rainbow Servant is a good 10th level prestige class if you get full spellcasting progression. It's very clear that you do get full spells. I'd go with Warmage for this one though Text *always* trumps tables in D&D and the errata say so explicitly for that book (and I think for that class too).
jstorrie 11-26-05, 04:02 AM	Spellguard of Silverymoon is my favourite, though it is Forgotten Realms-specific.
v4l3r1o 11-26-05, 12:38 PM	War weaver, Spellguard of Silverymoon and Initiate of the sevenfold veil are great. I cannot use Eberron books and i generaly play in forgotten ^_^ What do you think about Olin Gisir from Lost Empires of fearun?
v4l3r1o 11-27-05, 07:59 AM	What do you think about Olin Gisir from Lost Empires of fearun? Up :rolleyes:
v4l3r1o 11-28-05, 02:04 AM	Any other sugestion for good PRC? What do you thing about taking some levels to Olim Gisir (LEoF) when you play Incantatrix? O.G. & In. has the same prerequisite and at O.G.1st-level you take an exra feat.
v4l3r1o 11-28-05, 09:27 AM	Please reply! :(
Sir Gummibaerchen 11-28-05, 11:50 AM	Well I'd say it has some good synergy, but it is best to take those levels later in your career, when you have the intelligence needed to bick those bonus feats. For a build I'd suggest a Sun Elf Generalist Wizard6/Incantatrix10/Olin Gisir4. Generalist Wizard is the Elf Wizard substitution level, found in Races of the Wild.
v4l3r1o 11-29-05, 02:13 AM	Well I'd say it has some good synergy, but it is best to take those levels later in your career, when you have the intelligence needed to bick those bonus feats. For a build I'd suggest a Sun Elf Generalist Wizard6/Incantatrix10/Olin Gisir4. Generalist Wizard is the Elf Wizard substitution level, found in Races of the Wild. I'm agree with you :)
v4l3r1o 11-30-05, 07:49 AM	Any other suggestion?
Nightspirit 11-30-05, 12:15 PM	dweomerkeeper, shadowcrafter, shadowcraft mage, mindbender(1st level only), shadow adept, spelldancer(for persistent/extended buffs)
v4l3r1o 12-05-05, 05:58 AM	I can play only in FR so I discard some PRC like Recaster :weep: (no Eb, no GH, no DL) Prestige Class ( http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/lists/prc&tablesort=1 ) xth-level prestige class (book, page): prerequisite (spell-level, feats, other) 3th-level Wayfarer Guide (CAr, p.65): 10 rank 5th-level: Archmage (DMG, p.178): 7th, Skill Focus (spellcraft), Spell Focus x2 Spelldancer (Mag, p.37): 3rd, Combat Casting, Dodge, Endurance, Mobility Geometer (CAr, p.39): 3rd, 9 rank Fatespinner (CAr, p.37): 4th War Weaver (HB, p.112) 3rd, Enlarge Spell Shadowcraft Mage (RS, p.120) : 4th, SpellFocus(ill), Gnome Spellguard of Silverymoon (PG, p.75): 4th, Combat Casting, any one metamagic feat, Silverymoon or Silver Marches, nonevil Earth Dreamer (RS, p.110): 1st, Earth Sense, 10 rank 7th-level Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil (CAr, p.44): 4th, Skill Focus (Spellcraft), Spell Focus (abjuration), GSF (abjuration), 12 rank 10th-level Incantatrix (PG, p.61): 3rd, Iron Will, any one metamagic feat Olin Gisir (LE, p21): 3rd, Iron Will, any two metamagic feat, 10 rank, Elf or Half-Elf Runecaster (PG, p.69): 3rd, Inscribe Rune Dweomerkeeper (FP, p.189): 2nd arcane, 2nd divine, Exotic Weapon (shuriken), any one item creation feat, any one metamagic feat, one of: Delay, Persistent or Twin Spell, Human Loremaster (DMG, p.191): 3rd, Skill Focus (Knoledge x), any three metamagic or item creation feat, 10 rank RedMage (DMG, p.193): 3rd, Tattoo Focus, any three metamagic or item creation feat, Human from Thay, nongood Shadow Adept (PG, p.72): 3rd, Shadow Weave Magic, any one metamagic feat, nongood Shadowcrafter (Und, p.43): 3rd, SpellFocus(ill) , GSF(ill) Divine Oracle (CD, p.34): Skill Focus (Knoledge(religion)), 8 rank Mindbender (CAr, p.54): 5th, nongood Hathran (PG, p.59): 4th, Ethran, Leadership, Female from Rashmen Any other suggestion?
Nightspirit 12-05-05, 08:13 AM	pale master, wild mage, the dweomerkeeper from the web enhancement of the complete divine(AKA the broken one), halruaan elder, shadowcrafter
v4l3r1o 12-06-05, 02:21 AM	Up :rolleyes: