best STR>LA [Archive] - Wizards Community

best STR>LA [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Kickbutt_nancy
08-14-06, 08:28 PM what is the most strength you can get (at least 10 to 1 ratio) with the smallest Level Ajustment
PhaedrusXY
08-14-06, 09:08 PM Feral anthropomorphic baleen whale mineral warrior half-golem incarnate construct. I don't feel like doing the math on that again... Don't forget the tattoo on his arm that says MOM.
Arem_K
08-14-06, 09:53 PM I think the only way to do that is with lycanthropy abuse. There is no template that actually gives you a plus 10 mod to str in exchange for one LA, I think.

Generally, if you are a warrior and want a template, you want it to either be mineral warrior or feral. Half golem works too, but is not supposed to be for PCs. As far as broken races go, I hear anthropomorphic things are insane, but I have no experience with that.
Auldar
08-14-06, 10:27 PM I think the only way to do that is with lycanthropy abuse. There is no template that actually gives you a plus 10 mod to str in exchange for one LA, I think.

Well, the half-minotaur does, if you allow Dragon Magazine material. It's way under valued at +1 LA though. It really should be +3 LA, or +2 LA at a minimum.

+8 for the size increase
+4 for the template (it specifically states the stat increases of the template are in addition to the changes in the MM for changing creature size)
Brol_The_Mighty
08-15-06, 08:55 AM Would also suggest the Half-Ogre template from Dragon as well (Its on crystalkeep on which Dragon mag.)
hogarth
08-15-06, 09:27 AM I'm not too familiar with the template, but according to what I've read on this board a Lolth-touched (+1 LA template from MMIV) orc would have a +10 Str adjustment for +1 LA.

Of course a Lolth-touched feral anthropomorphic baleen whale mineral warrior (+3 LA) with a stiletto in her garter just makes more sense. Grab a Decanter of Endless Krill and you're good to go.
jameswilliamogle
08-15-06, 09:34 AM I'm not too familiar with the template, but according to what I've read on this board a Lolth-touched (+1 LA template from MMIV) orc would have a +10 Str adjustment for +1 LA.

Of course a Lolth-touched feral anthropomorphic baleen whale mineral warrior (+3 LA) with a stiletto in her garter just makes more sense. Grab a Decanter of Endless Krill and you're good to go.mmmm... krilllll.......
caralinda
08-15-06, 11:24 AM No it is not +10 But it IS +6 str +6 con which is a great buy for +1 LA :D
FriendlyFrog
08-15-06, 11:29 AM No it is not +10 But it IS +6 str +6 con which is a great buy for +1 LA :D
I believe he meant it's +10 with that +4 from orc.
caralinda
08-15-06, 11:33 AM Ahh right that what I get for posting before finishing my morning coffee :embarrass
JaronK
08-15-06, 11:35 AM Easy answer: Orc. 0 LA, +4 Str, that's infinite str to LA returns! Yay!

JaronK
PhaedrusXY
08-15-06, 01:22 PM Easy answer: Orc. 0 LA, +4 Str, that's infinite str to LA returns! Yay!

JaronKIt's not Infinite. It's Undefined. Which... might be even better. :D

The "thing" I suggested first gets something outrageous like +20 or more Str, 9 Natural Armor, some Con, 3 racial hit dice, large size, and a Level Adjustment of negative 1. I figured it out exactly once, but I don't feel like going through it again.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Kickbutt_nancy 08-14-06, 08:28 PM	what is the most strength you can get (at least 10 to 1 ratio) with the smallest Level Ajustment
PhaedrusXY 08-14-06, 09:08 PM	Feral anthropomorphic baleen whale mineral warrior half-golem incarnate construct. I don't feel like doing the math on that again... Don't forget the tattoo on his arm that says MOM.
Arem_K 08-14-06, 09:53 PM	I think the only way to do that is with lycanthropy abuse. There is no template that actually gives you a plus 10 mod to str in exchange for one LA, I think. Generally, if you are a warrior and want a template, you want it to either be mineral warrior or feral. Half golem works too, but is not supposed to be for PCs. As far as broken races go, I hear anthropomorphic things are insane, but I have no experience with that.
Auldar 08-14-06, 10:27 PM	I think the only way to do that is with lycanthropy abuse. There is no template that actually gives you a plus 10 mod to str in exchange for one LA, I think. Well, the half-minotaur does, if you allow Dragon Magazine material. It's way under valued at +1 LA though. It really should be +3 LA, or +2 LA at a minimum. +8 for the size increase +4 for the template (it specifically states the stat increases of the template are in addition to the changes in the MM for changing creature size)
Brol_The_Mighty 08-15-06, 08:55 AM	Would also suggest the Half-Ogre template from Dragon as well (Its on crystalkeep on which Dragon mag.)
hogarth 08-15-06, 09:27 AM	I'm not too familiar with the template, but according to what I've read on this board a Lolth-touched (+1 LA template from MMIV) orc would have a +10 Str adjustment for +1 LA. Of course a Lolth-touched feral anthropomorphic baleen whale mineral warrior (+3 LA) with a stiletto in her garter just makes more sense. Grab a Decanter of Endless Krill and you're good to go.
jameswilliamogle 08-15-06, 09:34 AM	I'm not too familiar with the template, but according to what I've read on this board a Lolth-touched (+1 LA template from MMIV) orc would have a +10 Str adjustment for +1 LA. Of course a Lolth-touched feral anthropomorphic baleen whale mineral warrior (+3 LA) with a stiletto in her garter just makes more sense. Grab a Decanter of Endless Krill and you're good to go.mmmm... krilllll.......
caralinda 08-15-06, 11:24 AM	No it is not +10 But it IS +6 str +6 con which is a great buy for +1 LA :D
FriendlyFrog 08-15-06, 11:29 AM	No it is not +10 But it IS +6 str +6 con which is a great buy for +1 LA :D I believe he meant it's +10 with that +4 from orc.
caralinda 08-15-06, 11:33 AM	Ahh right that what I get for posting before finishing my morning coffee :embarrass
JaronK 08-15-06, 11:35 AM	Easy answer: Orc. 0 LA, +4 Str, that's infinite str to LA returns! Yay! JaronK
PhaedrusXY 08-15-06, 01:22 PM	Easy answer: Orc. 0 LA, +4 Str, that's infinite str to LA returns! Yay! JaronKIt's not Infinite. It's Undefined. Which... might be even better. :D The "thing" I suggested first gets something outrageous like +20 or more Str, 9 Natural Armor, some Con, 3 racial hit dice, large size, and a Level Adjustment of negative 1. I figured it out exactly once, but I don't feel like going through it again.