Post/Author/DateTime	Post
shakal07 10-12-03, 06:45 PM	here's my human character: ro4/ran2/ass1 I'd like him to become void incarnate as soon as possible and reach at least Bab16 to gain an attack (fourth one i think). I can't take any ninja or oriental classes. thank you!!;)
Tristelune 10-13-03, 02:55 PM	hi, it's a pity that you can't use "oriental adventure". The ninja spy is not so bad... Maybe you can try to negociate with your DM :D Otherwise, you must combine BAB and increase in the needed skills for void incarnate. So, you can add some assassin levels and a mix of rogue/warrior (or ranger)
catharz 10-13-03, 06:40 PM	Rogue 12/Ranger 4/Assassin 5 - not very optimized, but it meets the criteria. You're probably better off ignoring the 4th attack as an assassin, however, and doing Rogue 10/Ran 2/Assassin 9. Too bad T. Shadowlords don't get slippery mind!
Tristelune 10-14-03, 03:02 AM	sorry, i'm french, and telflammar shadowlord is not yet available in france. Could you brifly present it to me, please? thanks :angel:
catharz 10-14-03, 03:36 AM	http://www.crystalkeep.com might have the prerequisites and first 2 levels. They gain spells, some shadow-related abilities, a pounce after teleport ability, and eventually death attack.
shakal07 10-14-03, 03:56 PM	Thank you for your posts Catharz and Tristelune. I've a last question what if I want to take a level of shadow master? I want to reach void incarnate so I think it is needed. Is there any different option? I want to make as much sneak attacks as possible and then hide. here's what i've tell me if you have any coment. ran3/ro8/ass4/fight4/shad1.
Tristelune 10-15-03, 03:11 AM	good built shakal.