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Best Warforged Juggernaut Build? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Bestopheles
08-19-04, 03:34 AM Hey Guys and Gals,

A friend is putting together a WJ build, and is wondering what the good synergies are. Straight fighter seems like a waste, but barbarian levels seem suboptimal due to the Adamantine armor (ditto monk). Cha will be probably be a dump stat, so pally and bard are out. Artificer is a possibility, but he'd prefer full bab if possible because he's going to be the tank of the party. Level 9, 32 pts, and standard equipment for the level in case it matters.

Thanks,
Jason
Mucknuggle
08-19-04, 07:48 AM Try using the search button. I've seen some threads about this before.
Zagumus
08-19-04, 09:28 AM Fighter 2
Hexblade 3 (Mettle)
Warfordge Juggernaut 5
Tactical Soldier 10
Myrridin
08-19-04, 10:11 AM Originally posted by Mucknuggle
Try using the search button. I've seen some threads about this before.

It's been disabled for awhile now.
Bestopheles
08-19-04, 05:56 PM bump
Norad
08-19-04, 06:17 PM Originally posted by Zagumus
Fighter 2
Hexblade 3 (Mettle)
Warfordge Juggernaut 5
Tactical Soldier 10

Nice build, I would swap Tactical Soldier 10 for Disciple of Dispater 10 though.
Bestopheles
08-20-04, 02:41 AM Hmm, yeah, which book is Disple of Dispater in, and why do you prefer it to the Tactical Soldier? I like the tactical soldier build, as smart fighters are always fun (as well as just running around and over things, so this should be a good combination), but I'd love to check out the disciple build.

Jason
Abraxos
08-20-04, 11:30 AM Book of Vile Darkness. Make sure your GM would let that one swing since it's basically a cultist of one of the Lords of the Abyss.
Effling
08-20-04, 06:43 PM That Disciple of Dispater is a really good prestige class, and fits perfectly for the Warforged. Excellent saves too. If I'm correct, with the Improved Critical feat, you could have a weapon (say, that 1d10/18-20 weapon from Eberron) that has a 9-20 critical range?
Zagumus
08-21-04, 04:35 AM I got another one.
F = Fighter
P = Psion (Shaper)
War = Warmind
E = Elocator
W = Warforgde Juggernaut

1 F Adamitine Body, *Dodge
2 P *Psy Dodge (Vigor, Astral Construct, Call to Mind)
3 P Phalanx Fighter (Minor Creation, Missive)
4 F *Mobility
5 P (Repair Damage, Knock)
6 War Spring Attack (Expantion)
7 E (Knock, Bestow Power)
8 War (Burst)
9 E Power Attack
10 E (Body Purification, Concealing Amorpha)
11 E (Mental Barrier, Dispel Psionics)
12 E Improved Bullrush
13 W
14 W
15 W Shock Troop
16 W
17 W
18 E Quicken Power (Psychic Reformation, Freedom of Movement, *Teleport, *Plane Shift)
19 E (Correspond, Quintessence)
20 P (True Seeing, Hail of Crystals)
Norad
08-21-04, 02:05 PM Originally posted by Effling
That Disciple of Dispater is a really good prestige class, and fits perfectly for the Warforged. Excellent saves too. If I'm correct, with the Improved Critical feat, you could have a weapon (say, that 1d10/18-20 weapon from Eberron) that has a 9-20 critical range?

I'm playing a pure caster in our Eberron game so I haven't seen that weapon yet, but that would be better than the Falchion I was thinking of using for the build. Yeah, top end would be a 9-20 crit range, excellent saves, and the DoD gets Search and Disable Device on the skill list and 4+Int modifier for skills.

Dispater is a Lord of the 4th (I think) of the Nine Hells, but alignments allowed for the PrC are any evil.
NilesB
08-21-04, 02:59 PM Doomlord (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20040706a&page=3) could also work well with Warforged Juggernaut.
Bestopheles
08-22-04, 07:49 PM Hmm. Maybe I could ask the DM if he would be willing to keep the mechanics of the Disciple of DIspater prestige class, and change the patron deity...maybe to the Supreme Modron?

Zagmus, that looks like a fun build, but doesn't heavy armor carry a potential power failure chance? I haven't read the book in a bit, so maybe not (those come from somatic components right? ANd psions don't have those) but I was sure that they did suffer from that restriction. Hmm.
*R*
08-22-04, 07:54 PM Bestopheles wrote:
Zagmus, that looks like a fun build, but doesn't heavy armor carry a potential power failure chance?
Psionic Powers do not suffer from Arcane Spell Failure %, so if you're proficient with the armor type, the only penalties are weight, max dex, armor check penalties to skills, and med/heavy armor speed.
malaegoth
08-22-04, 07:57 PM if your DM will let you get away with changing the alignment of that class, go for it. as a DM, i might allow that prestige class, but I won't let you get the awesome broken power of it without bartering your soul in hell.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Bestopheles 08-19-04, 03:34 AM	Hey Guys and Gals, A friend is putting together a WJ build, and is wondering what the good synergies are. Straight fighter seems like a waste, but barbarian levels seem suboptimal due to the Adamantine armor (ditto monk). Cha will be probably be a dump stat, so pally and bard are out. Artificer is a possibility, but he'd prefer full bab if possible because he's going to be the tank of the party. Level 9, 32 pts, and standard equipment for the level in case it matters. Thanks, Jason
Mucknuggle 08-19-04, 07:48 AM	Try using the search button. I've seen some threads about this before.
Zagumus 08-19-04, 09:28 AM	Fighter 2 Hexblade 3 (Mettle) Warfordge Juggernaut 5 Tactical Soldier 10
Myrridin 08-19-04, 10:11 AM	Originally posted by Mucknuggle Try using the search button. I've seen some threads about this before. It's been disabled for awhile now.
Bestopheles 08-19-04, 05:56 PM	bump
Norad 08-19-04, 06:17 PM	Originally posted by Zagumus Fighter 2 Hexblade 3 (Mettle) Warfordge Juggernaut 5 Tactical Soldier 10 Nice build, I would swap Tactical Soldier 10 for Disciple of Dispater 10 though.
Bestopheles 08-20-04, 02:41 AM	Hmm, yeah, which book is Disple of Dispater in, and why do you prefer it to the Tactical Soldier? I like the tactical soldier build, as smart fighters are always fun (as well as just running around and over things, so this should be a good combination), but I'd love to check out the disciple build. Jason
Abraxos 08-20-04, 11:30 AM	Book of Vile Darkness. Make sure your GM would let that one swing since it's basically a cultist of one of the Lords of the Abyss.
Effling 08-20-04, 06:43 PM	That Disciple of Dispater is a really good prestige class, and fits perfectly for the Warforged. Excellent saves too. If I'm correct, with the Improved Critical feat, you could have a weapon (say, that 1d10/18-20 weapon from Eberron) that has a 9-20 critical range?
Zagumus 08-21-04, 04:35 AM	I got another one. F = Fighter P = Psion (Shaper) War = Warmind E = Elocator W = Warforgde Juggernaut 1 F Adamitine Body, Dodge 2 P Psy Dodge (Vigor, Astral Construct, Call to Mind) 3 P Phalanx Fighter (Minor Creation, Missive) 4 F Mobility 5 P (Repair Damage, Knock) 6 War Spring Attack (Expantion) 7 E (Knock, Bestow Power) 8 War (Burst) 9 E Power Attack 10 E (Body Purification, Concealing Amorpha) 11 E (Mental Barrier, Dispel Psionics) 12 E Improved Bullrush 13 W 14 W 15 W Shock Troop 16 W 17 W 18 E Quicken Power (Psychic Reformation, Freedom of Movement, Teleport, *Plane Shift) 19 E (Correspond, Quintessence) 20 P (True Seeing, Hail of Crystals)
Norad 08-21-04, 02:05 PM	Originally posted by Effling That Disciple of Dispater is a really good prestige class, and fits perfectly for the Warforged. Excellent saves too. If I'm correct, with the Improved Critical feat, you could have a weapon (say, that 1d10/18-20 weapon from Eberron) that has a 9-20 critical range? I'm playing a pure caster in our Eberron game so I haven't seen that weapon yet, but that would be better than the Falchion I was thinking of using for the build. Yeah, top end would be a 9-20 crit range, excellent saves, and the DoD gets Search and Disable Device on the skill list and 4+Int modifier for skills. Dispater is a Lord of the 4th (I think) of the Nine Hells, but alignments allowed for the PrC are any evil.
NilesB 08-21-04, 02:59 PM	Doomlord (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20040706a&page=3) could also work well with Warforged Juggernaut.
Bestopheles 08-22-04, 07:49 PM	Hmm. Maybe I could ask the DM if he would be willing to keep the mechanics of the Disciple of DIspater prestige class, and change the patron deity...maybe to the Supreme Modron? Zagmus, that looks like a fun build, but doesn't heavy armor carry a potential power failure chance? I haven't read the book in a bit, so maybe not (those come from somatic components right? ANd psions don't have those) but I was sure that they did suffer from that restriction. Hmm.
R 08-22-04, 07:54 PM	Bestopheles wrote: Zagmus, that looks like a fun build, but doesn't heavy armor carry a potential power failure chance? Psionic Powers do not suffer from Arcane Spell Failure %, so if you're proficient with the armor type, the only penalties are weight, max dex, armor check penalties to skills, and med/heavy armor speed.
malaegoth 08-22-04, 07:57 PM	if your DM will let you get away with changing the alignment of that class, go for it. as a DM, i might allow that prestige class, but I won't let you get the awesome broken power of it without bartering your soul in hell.