Best way for a lvl 10 Archivist to gain immunity to mind-effecting for 24 hrs...? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Best way for a lvl 10 Archivist to gain immunity to mind-effecting for 24 hrs...? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Pallin Rahl
10-26-06, 12:23 PM Trying to find a way for this to play-out, for an NPC in my campaign... want it to work logically within the rules, without having to pull a "special DM-only magic effect" or whatever...

Say a level 10 Archivist with a fair amount of resources at his disposal wants to gain immunity to mind-effecting spells/powers for 24 hours. ...what's the most logical way to achieve this?
LogicNinja
10-26-06, 12:40 PM http://d20srd.org/srd/spells/mindBlank.htm

Mind Blank. A cleric with the Protection domain scribed it, and the archivist got a couple, and activated one the same way characters normally activate spell completion items that have spells they can't cast yet, i.e. a successful caster level check.

Edit: alternatively, the Feytouched template grants immunity to mind-affecting things.
Pallin Rahl
10-26-06, 12:52 PM http://d20srd.org/srd/spells/mindBlank.htm

Mind Blank. A cleric with the Protection domain scribed it, and the archivist got a couple, and activated one the same way characters normally activate spell completion items that have spells they can't cast yet, i.e. a successful caster level check.

Edit: alternatively, the Feytouched template grants immunity to mind-affecting things.

I didn't want to go with a template... or anything so perminant. Just something to protect him for 24 hours, for plot reasons. :)

Good call on the Mind Blank. Forgot it was in the Protection Domain. :)

Thanks :D

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Silly/odd question: Is there any way to make it more-difficult or impossible (probably no way to make it "impossible") to dispell the effect? Just curious.
LogicNinja
10-26-06, 01:21 PM If you want to avoid the scroll business, an ally of his can cast it on him.

Mind Blank: yes, it IS that good. :)
Slyver
10-26-06, 01:23 PM Silly/odd question: Is there any way to make it more-difficult or impossible (probably no way to make it "impossible") to dispell the effect? Just curious.

If it is a spell effect, it can be dispelled (unless the spell states otherwise). If it is racial trait/class feature it can not. To the best of my knowledge, these are true statements.

Slyver
LogicNinja
10-26-06, 03:54 PM Silly/odd question: Is there any way to make it more-difficult or impossible (probably no way to make it "impossible") to dispell the effect? Just curious.

Have the maker of the scroll (or caster of the spell) make the scroll or cast the spell at a very high caster level.
Judging Eagle
10-26-06, 04:30 PM Buying a Scroll of Mind Blank: 3,000 gp

Or

Getting Mind Blank Cast on yourself: 1,200 (or less)

Buying Dual Rings of Counterspells: 8000 gp

Casting Dispel Magic* Twice in one Day when you are doing nothing else: Free

Buying extra scrolls of Dispell Magic*:375 or 1,650 each.

Being Immune to the first two attempts to remove your buffs: Priceless

*: Greater Dispel Magic if you can

So, buy a ring of Counterspells for 4,000 gp. I know it's some of the best 4000 gp my character has ever spent.
PhaedrusXY
10-26-06, 04:34 PM Silly/odd question: Is there any way to make it more-difficult or impossible (probably no way to make it "impossible") to dispell the effect? Just curious.http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=685732
JaronK
10-26-06, 08:10 PM Just to throw out a completely different tack... there's an undead symbiot in Libris Mortis (or maybe Heroes of Horror, I can never remember) that makes its host undead for all mental scanning purposes, and is undispellable.

JaronK
PhaedrusXY
10-26-06, 08:25 PM Just to throw out a completely different tack... there's an undead symbiot in Libris Mortis (or maybe Heroes of Horror, I can never remember) that makes its host undead for all mental scanning purposes, and is undispellable.

JaronKGhostly Visage. It is in both Heroes of Horror and another book... I think Fiend Folio. Dread Necromancers can take one as a familiar, I'm pretty sure.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Pallin Rahl 10-26-06, 12:23 PM	Trying to find a way for this to play-out, for an NPC in my campaign... want it to work logically within the rules, without having to pull a "special DM-only magic effect" or whatever... Say a level 10 Archivist with a fair amount of resources at his disposal wants to gain immunity to mind-effecting spells/powers for 24 hours. ...what's the most logical way to achieve this?
LogicNinja 10-26-06, 12:40 PM	http://d20srd.org/srd/spells/mindBlank.htm Mind Blank. A cleric with the Protection domain scribed it, and the archivist got a couple, and activated one the same way characters normally activate spell completion items that have spells they can't cast yet, i.e. a successful caster level check. Edit: alternatively, the Feytouched template grants immunity to mind-affecting things.
Pallin Rahl 10-26-06, 12:52 PM	http://d20srd.org/srd/spells/mindBlank.htm Mind Blank. A cleric with the Protection domain scribed it, and the archivist got a couple, and activated one the same way characters normally activate spell completion items that have spells they can't cast yet, i.e. a successful caster level check. Edit: alternatively, the Feytouched template grants immunity to mind-affecting things. I didn't want to go with a template... or anything so perminant. Just something to protect him for 24 hours, for plot reasons. :) Good call on the Mind Blank. Forgot it was in the Protection Domain. :) Thanks :D --- Silly/odd question: Is there any way to make it more-difficult or impossible (probably no way to make it "impossible") to dispell the effect? Just curious.
LogicNinja 10-26-06, 01:21 PM	If you want to avoid the scroll business, an ally of his can cast it on him. Mind Blank: yes, it IS that good. :)
Slyver 10-26-06, 01:23 PM	Silly/odd question: Is there any way to make it more-difficult or impossible (probably no way to make it "impossible") to dispell the effect? Just curious. If it is a spell effect, it can be dispelled (unless the spell states otherwise). If it is racial trait/class feature it can not. To the best of my knowledge, these are true statements. Slyver
LogicNinja 10-26-06, 03:54 PM	Silly/odd question: Is there any way to make it more-difficult or impossible (probably no way to make it "impossible") to dispell the effect? Just curious. Have the maker of the scroll (or caster of the spell) make the scroll or cast the spell at a very high caster level.
Judging Eagle 10-26-06, 04:30 PM	Buying a Scroll of Mind Blank: 3,000 gp Or Getting Mind Blank Cast on yourself: 1,200 (or less) Buying Dual Rings of Counterspells: 8000 gp Casting Dispel Magic* Twice in one Day when you are doing nothing else: Free Buying extra scrolls of Dispell Magic:375 or 1,650 each. Being Immune to the first two attempts to remove your buffs: Priceless : Greater Dispel Magic if you can So, buy a ring of Counterspells for 4,000 gp. I know it's some of the best 4000 gp my character has ever spent.
PhaedrusXY 10-26-06, 04:34 PM	Silly/odd question: Is there any way to make it more-difficult or impossible (probably no way to make it "impossible") to dispell the effect? Just curious.http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=685732
JaronK 10-26-06, 08:10 PM	Just to throw out a completely different tack... there's an undead symbiot in Libris Mortis (or maybe Heroes of Horror, I can never remember) that makes its host undead for all mental scanning purposes, and is undispellable. JaronK
PhaedrusXY 10-26-06, 08:25 PM	Just to throw out a completely different tack... there's an undead symbiot in Libris Mortis (or maybe Heroes of Horror, I can never remember) that makes its host undead for all mental scanning purposes, and is undispellable. JaronKGhostly Visage. It is in both Heroes of Horror and another book... I think Fiend Folio. Dread Necromancers can take one as a familiar, I'm pretty sure.