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Super Guy
05-11-04, 07:57 PM I'm not precisely sure this goes on this board... I'm looking for the best way to have my rogue 'beat the system'. I don't know how to phrase it, so I'll say my question.

In a month or so our DM is going to start another campaign. He's a balanced guy, he doesn't underpower but he doesn't overpower, and he plays fair and reasonably. We're starting out at thirteenth level and I'm going all rogue and master thief, a prestige class that my DM made that those who I have shown it to on the boards have said is balanced. Anyways, let's assume I'm a bit higher level, and I'm robbing a powerful wizards guild. At night.

I'm pretty sure it's legal to cast Permanency from a scroll using Use Magic Device, and then follow it up with Arcane Sight, so I would do that to have permanent Arcane Sight.

Now, I'm in there. I can bypass pretty much anything, I figure. With Arcane Sights I can determine where there are spells, and with really good search, disable device, hides and move silently I can get past traps and (hopefully) guards.

However, my DM brought up the point that they could have dogs. Dogs could sniff me out, right? The object here isn't kill anything that gets in my way, it's don't let things get in my way. I don't want anyone to know I was there until, at least, I'm about to escape or have escaped. I can't rightly just cast sleep, 'cause if this is a very powerful guild I doubt that the guard holding the dog will fall for it, and he'll obviously know what's up. I could turn ethereal, but what if they have everything Arcane Locked?

I even figure, I could bypass Prismatic Wall/Sphere by using silent scrolls to destroy the wall/sphere after I've cast a permanent image of a prismatic wall/sphere so that no one, if anyone is there, is any the wiser. But I can't think of a way past these dogs! Or, worse yet, something with tremorsense and scent.

Does anyone have any ideas on bypassing this?
Kwyn
05-11-04, 08:11 PM You might try the "What's a player to do" board. It's pretty much made for just this type of question.
laotching
05-11-04, 08:11 PM How does turning ethereal put you in a worse position if the chest or vault is Arcane Locked? You'd still have to cast Silent Knock.
Super Guy
05-11-04, 08:17 PM Ah, you're right, I didn't notice that. It should say Dimensional Lock. Arcane Lock probably won't be a problem.

Edit: Ok, posted over there, thanks.

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Super Guy 05-11-04, 07:57 PM	I'm not precisely sure this goes on this board... I'm looking for the best way to have my rogue 'beat the system'. I don't know how to phrase it, so I'll say my question. In a month or so our DM is going to start another campaign. He's a balanced guy, he doesn't underpower but he doesn't overpower, and he plays fair and reasonably. We're starting out at thirteenth level and I'm going all rogue and master thief, a prestige class that my DM made that those who I have shown it to on the boards have said is balanced. Anyways, let's assume I'm a bit higher level, and I'm robbing a powerful wizards guild. At night. I'm pretty sure it's legal to cast Permanency from a scroll using Use Magic Device, and then follow it up with Arcane Sight, so I would do that to have permanent Arcane Sight. Now, I'm in there. I can bypass pretty much anything, I figure. With Arcane Sights I can determine where there are spells, and with really good search, disable device, hides and move silently I can get past traps and (hopefully) guards. However, my DM brought up the point that they could have dogs. Dogs could sniff me out, right? The object here isn't kill anything that gets in my way, it's don't let things get in my way. I don't want anyone to know I was there until, at least, I'm about to escape or have escaped. I can't rightly just cast sleep, 'cause if this is a very powerful guild I doubt that the guard holding the dog will fall for it, and he'll obviously know what's up. I could turn ethereal, but what if they have everything Arcane Locked? I even figure, I could bypass Prismatic Wall/Sphere by using silent scrolls to destroy the wall/sphere after I've cast a permanent image of a prismatic wall/sphere so that no one, if anyone is there, is any the wiser. But I can't think of a way past these dogs! Or, worse yet, something with tremorsense and scent. Does anyone have any ideas on bypassing this?
Kwyn 05-11-04, 08:11 PM	You might try the "What's a player to do" board. It's pretty much made for just this type of question.
laotching 05-11-04, 08:11 PM	How does turning ethereal put you in a worse position if the chest or vault is Arcane Locked? You'd still have to cast Silent Knock.
Super Guy 05-11-04, 08:17 PM	Ah, you're right, I didn't notice that. It should say Dimensional Lock. Arcane Lock probably won't be a problem. Edit: Ok, posted over there, thanks.