Better Wildshape: Brown Bear, Tiger, or other? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Better Wildshape: Brown Bear, Tiger, or other? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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SmiloDan
03-14-04, 08:28 AM What is the best 8th level Wildshape form for melee combat? It can be any small, medium, or large animal of 8 HD or less.

Rhinoceras is pretty damn good if you're charging!
But a Tiger has pounce, which is 5 attacks...
And I think Brown Bear is the strongest...

No dinosaurs please.
RabidWeasel
03-14-04, 09:12 AM Dire lion is nice at 8th level, as is dire ape; the stronger of the two depends on your equipment.

Dire lion has 5 attacks at 1d6+7/1d6+7/1d8+3/1d6+3/1d6+3 when pouncing, which when combined with a 40 ft. move is rather effective.
Boo
03-14-04, 02:41 PM Its either the Dire Lion or the Brown/Polar Bear. If you are fighting things that cant grapple well you might as well use the Dire lion since you get 2 extra attacks provided you hit and grapple with the bite. The Bear's strength is only 2 more than the Lion's anyways.
Khazra
03-14-04, 04:54 PM I lake apes, opposable thumbs rock. Get a two handed weapon and kick sum butt. Or a lance and ride your animal companion into combat. And then , when u get to level 13 go apre of legend. 30 str and two handed wpn:smirk: .
Sisyfos
03-14-04, 05:10 PM Wildshape did have the limitation, that you had to be familiar with the form you want to become, right? That being said, I've never seen ape of legend in our games and it cannot be summoned either. So I just see no way to be able to wildshape into one without some serious fieldwork research. Yet everyone is always recommending that every druid wildshape into just that form.

Sisyfos
Prism
03-14-04, 05:24 PM Originally posted by Sisyfos
Wildshape did have that limitation, that you had to be familiar with the form you want to become, right? That being said, I've never seen ape of legend in our games and it cannot be summoned either. So I just see no way to be able to wildshape into one without some serious fieldwork research. Yet everyone is always recommending that every druid wildshape into just that form.

Sisyfos

I agree. Aside from the animal lord class I don't know of any other way of wild shaping into a legendary form without actually seeing the creature first.

Having said that, thats the source of a nice little adventure surely, that the DM could provide

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
SmiloDan 03-14-04, 08:28 AM	What is the best 8th level Wildshape form for melee combat? It can be any small, medium, or large animal of 8 HD or less. Rhinoceras is pretty damn good if you're charging! But a Tiger has pounce, which is 5 attacks... And I think Brown Bear is the strongest... No dinosaurs please.
RabidWeasel 03-14-04, 09:12 AM	Dire lion is nice at 8th level, as is dire ape; the stronger of the two depends on your equipment. Dire lion has 5 attacks at 1d6+7/1d6+7/1d8+3/1d6+3/1d6+3 when pouncing, which when combined with a 40 ft. move is rather effective.
Boo 03-14-04, 02:41 PM	Its either the Dire Lion or the Brown/Polar Bear. If you are fighting things that cant grapple well you might as well use the Dire lion since you get 2 extra attacks provided you hit and grapple with the bite. The Bear's strength is only 2 more than the Lion's anyways.
Khazra 03-14-04, 04:54 PM	I lake apes, opposable thumbs rock. Get a two handed weapon and kick sum butt. Or a lance and ride your animal companion into combat. And then , when u get to level 13 go apre of legend. 30 str and two handed wpn:smirk: .
Sisyfos 03-14-04, 05:10 PM	Wildshape did have the limitation, that you had to be familiar with the form you want to become, right? That being said, I've never seen ape of legend in our games and it cannot be summoned either. So I just see no way to be able to wildshape into one without some serious fieldwork research. Yet everyone is always recommending that every druid wildshape into just that form. Sisyfos
Prism 03-14-04, 05:24 PM	Originally posted by Sisyfos Wildshape did have that limitation, that you had to be familiar with the form you want to become, right? That being said, I've never seen ape of legend in our games and it cannot be summoned either. So I just see no way to be able to wildshape into one without some serious fieldwork research. Yet everyone is always recommending that every druid wildshape into just that form. Sisyfos I agree. Aside from the animal lord class I don't know of any other way of wild shaping into a legendary form without actually seeing the creature first. Having said that, thats the source of a nice little adventure surely, that the DM could provide