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jameswilliamogle 11-09-06, 11:07 AM	Campaign rules: No PHB races or classes (feats and prereq's that depend on those classes exclusively now have other prereq's). Here's the build: Karsite Binder 10 w/ LA Buyoff Str 20 (16) Dex 14 Con 16 Int 14 Wis 8 Cha 23 (19) (36 pb, +2 con, cha, +2 cha levels) BAB +7 Fort 10 (7) Ref 5 (3) Will 6 (7) AC: 20, flatfooted 18, touch 12 Grapple: +12 Speed: 20’ Initiative: +12 Feats (6) Improved Binding, Power Attack, Weapon Focus: Greatsword, Imp Bull Rush, Shocktrooper, Improved Initiative Skills (65 points) Bluff 16 (10), Concentration 7 (5), Decipher Script 7 (5), Diplomacy 23 (13), Gather Information 11 (5), Intimidate 11 (5), Knowledge (arcane) 7 (5), knowledge (religion) 7 (5), Knowledge (the planes) 7 (5), Sense Motive 4 (5), Tumble 3 (1) Racial Abilities SR 20 (10+level) Spell Healing (2 HP per spell level resisted) DR 5 / Magic Can't cast spells, but can use UMD, etc. Magic Draining Attacks (Will, DC 16 (10 + Cha), suppresses a magic item 1 round, random or chosen) All human traits Binder Abilities 2 Vestiges at once Pact Augmentation (3 abilities): Initiative +2, To Hit +1, AC +1, HP +5, DR 1 / -, Damage +1, Evergy Resistance 5 (all 3 points put into Initiative) While Bound: Slippery Mind, Immune to Fear Suppress Sign Bind 6th level vestiges Equipment (start w/ 50000 gp) GP 670 Vestige Philactery (stores one vestige for recall as a full-round action: Buer) Belt of Giant Strength +4 Cloak of Charisma +4 +1 Greatsword (+13, 2d6+7, PA: up to 2d6+21) Mithral Full-Plate Hat of Disguise (currently set to look like an Elf Wizard wielding a Longsword) Implements of Binding +4 (+4 on binding checks) Start out with Naberius and Haures bound for social work and some manipulation, but will switch to Chupoclops and Dahlver-Nar for combat situations (Shield Self + Relentless charge just seems so appealing). Any thoughts about equipment or feats that I should switch out?
darkone7141981 11-23-06, 01:22 AM	Um, what books are you guys using? That would help us a bit... Are you planning on being the meatshield/beatstick? It is a nice build that way if you are, but usually I have heard of Binders being used very sparingly (as a dip for a specific vestige) or as Jack-of-all-trade type characters... Sorry if that wasn't helpful, but the build looks pretty nice to me.