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Bizarre Character Help [Archive] - Wizards Community

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DM_Dracophile
03-25-06, 05:17 PM I could use all the help and ideas I can get.
I need to put together a Pureblood Yuan-ti which is primarily geared towards the Rogue's role.
Could be pure Rogue.
Could be some bizarre combo.
And here's the kicker...non-evil :rolleyes:

For general build purposes, please just ignore the racial hit die and level adjustment. Those are obvious complications. I'm just lost as to how best to optimize such a character combo beyond that.

We have access to pretty much anything that's WotC. Except Ghostwalk. Never picked that up for some reason.

Thanks in advance, guys. I do appreciate the suggestions.

peace

Draco
Thanatos42
03-25-06, 06:12 PM What roll do you want the rogue to fill? Skillmonkey, sneak attacker, etc? How are your stats being figured, and what lvl will the char be starting at?

Finally, what do you mean by ignore the racial hitdie/level adjustment? Are you being allowed to make a yuan-ti with the given stats/abilities but none of the penalties?
runestar
03-25-06, 10:57 PM I assumed he meant we would leave it out for our own convenience, though it would only end up complicating things.

With ECL6, that's 14 lvs to play around. Monstrous humanoid HD is not extremely generous when it comes to doling out skill points(2+int mod), even with its stat mods of +2dex/int/cha. :( It has concentration, disguise, hide, knowledge(any), listen and spot as class skills(not particularly stellar).

I suggest you take the psionic yuanti variant in the XPH instead. With access to a variety of psi-like ablities at will, including detect hostile intent :eek: , this means it is extremely hard for any party to sneak up successfully on you. It seems to fit into the role of the party scout rather well, so maybe some sort of ranger/rogue multiclass?

I am not too concerned about the alignment part. I never did let it restrict me when dreaming up builds... ;)
DM_Dracophile
03-26-06, 08:57 AM Yeah, the reason I said to just disregard the LA and racial HD is that we're running a bit of a variant game. We're not using the racial HD at all (nor accompanying skills, feat, hp, etc) and 'ignoring' up to 2 LA.
For example, though everyone in the party might have 6 character levels, we're actually more in line with 8th level characters.

So the yuan-ti in question has the special attacks/qualities, ability mods, etc, but no extra HD, skills, feats, yadda yadda.

I wasn't blown away by the psi variant, though I'll take a second look if you think it's superior.

As for role, I suppose we'd be looking at a well-rounded rogue; capable of being Scout, social diva, and a bit of jack-of-all-trades.

Though, that can go out the window if you amazing optimizers find a niche that she fills better than most :D

Stats are rolled 4d6, reroll 1's, and drop the low die.

And starting at 6th level, though I'm really looking for a full 20 progression.

Thanks all!

Draco

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DM_Dracophile 03-25-06, 05:17 PM	I could use all the help and ideas I can get. I need to put together a Pureblood Yuan-ti which is primarily geared towards the Rogue's role. Could be pure Rogue. Could be some bizarre combo. And here's the kicker...non-evil :rolleyes: For general build purposes, please just ignore the racial hit die and level adjustment. Those are obvious complications. I'm just lost as to how best to optimize such a character combo beyond that. We have access to pretty much anything that's WotC. Except Ghostwalk. Never picked that up for some reason. Thanks in advance, guys. I do appreciate the suggestions. peace Draco
Thanatos42 03-25-06, 06:12 PM	What roll do you want the rogue to fill? Skillmonkey, sneak attacker, etc? How are your stats being figured, and what lvl will the char be starting at? Finally, what do you mean by ignore the racial hitdie/level adjustment? Are you being allowed to make a yuan-ti with the given stats/abilities but none of the penalties?
runestar 03-25-06, 10:57 PM	I assumed he meant we would leave it out for our own convenience, though it would only end up complicating things. With ECL6, that's 14 lvs to play around. Monstrous humanoid HD is not extremely generous when it comes to doling out skill points(2+int mod), even with its stat mods of +2dex/int/cha. :( It has concentration, disguise, hide, knowledge(any), listen and spot as class skills(not particularly stellar). I suggest you take the psionic yuanti variant in the XPH instead. With access to a variety of psi-like ablities at will, including detect hostile intent :eek: , this means it is extremely hard for any party to sneak up successfully on you. It seems to fit into the role of the party scout rather well, so maybe some sort of ranger/rogue multiclass? I am not too concerned about the alignment part. I never did let it restrict me when dreaming up builds... ;)
DM_Dracophile 03-26-06, 08:57 AM	Yeah, the reason I said to just disregard the LA and racial HD is that we're running a bit of a variant game. We're not using the racial HD at all (nor accompanying skills, feat, hp, etc) and 'ignoring' up to 2 LA. For example, though everyone in the party might have 6 character levels, we're actually more in line with 8th level characters. So the yuan-ti in question has the special attacks/qualities, ability mods, etc, but no extra HD, skills, feats, yadda yadda. I wasn't blown away by the psi variant, though I'll take a second look if you think it's superior. As for role, I suppose we'd be looking at a well-rounded rogue; capable of being Scout, social diva, and a bit of jack-of-all-trades. Though, that can go out the window if you amazing optimizers find a niche that she fills better than most :D Stats are rolled 4d6, reroll 1's, and drop the low die. And starting at 6th level, though I'm really looking for a full 20 progression. Thanks all! Draco