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greymarch 12-22-03, 02:42 PM	I started a neutral 1st level fighter/1st level Tiefling rogue in our ongoing Forgotten Realms campaign. I want this character to be a Black Flame Zealot (Forgotten Realms PrC.) Here is the build I have so far... 4th level Fighter/4th level Rogue/4th Level Cleric/8th level Black Flame Zealot. 1st level - 1 Fighter: Improved Initiative, Weapon Finesse 2nd level - 1 Rogue 3rd Level - 1 Cleric: Iron Will 4th Level - 2 Fighter: Two-weapon fighting 5th Level - 2 Rogue: Evasion 6th Level - 2 Cleric: Weapon Focus: Shortsword 7th Level - 3 Cleric 8th Level - 1 Black Flame Zealot 9th Level - 2 BFZ: Improved Two-weapon fighting 10th level - 3 BFZ 11th level - 4 BFZ 12th level - 5 BFZ: Blind-fighting 13th level - 6 BFZ 14th level - 7 BFZ 15th level - 8 BFZ: Greater Two-weapon fighting 16th level - 3 Fighter 17th level - 4 Fighter: Weapon Specialization: Shortsword 18th level - 4 Cleric: Feat(?) 19th level - 3 Rogue 20th level - 4 Rogue: Uncanny Dodge Total BAB: +16 Total divine caster level: 8 Any suggestions are welcome, but there are some guidelines I would like to follow: 1. The character must remain neutral. 2. The character must be a tiefling 3. The character must have a BAB of +16 by 20th level. FYI: The kukri is now a martial melee weapon in D&D 3.5, according to the Player's Handbook, so you no longer need to take it as a exotic weapon proficiency feat in order to qualify for BFZ.
balefire42 12-22-03, 03:33 PM	You'd be better off with Fighter1/Swashbuckler3/Rogue4/Cleric4/BlackFlameZealot8. Int. to damage is better than weapon specialization, and swashbucklers get weapon finesse at level one, so you still have the same number of feats. BTW, for those of us that don't have unnaproachable east (like myself), what are the requirements for the black flame zealot?
Auralynx 12-22-03, 07:52 PM	He looks to be getting pretty fair mileage feat-wise out of those Fighter levels (not unexpected), so swapping to Swashbuckler (which will ALSO induce an XP penalty, let's not forget) isn't exactly a great idea here. Unfortunately, I don't have UE with me at the moment (home for the holidays like so many others), so I can't really offer much help with this.
greymarch 12-23-03, 11:58 AM	Black Flame Zealot has the following requirements: Knowledge: Religion 8 ranks Move Silently: 8 ranks Hide: 8 ranks Ability to cast 2nd level divine spells +1d6 Sneak Attack The BFZ also lists exotic weapon:kukri as a requirement, but this book was written before the 3.5 PHB was released. The 3.5 PHB states that a kukri is now a martial weapon, so this requirement no longer exists.
balefire42 12-23-03, 04:50 PM	Fighter2/Swashbuckler3/Cleric3/Rogue4/Black Flame Zealot8 No exp penalties on this one (a tiefling's favored class is rogue right?). I think your gonna get more milage out of adding your int. mod. to damage than you will from weapon specialization.
greymarch 12-23-03, 04:57 PM	Black Flame Zealot is a divine caster, so their spells are dependent on their wisdom. If I take swashbuckler, then I would have three ability scores that I need to pay attention to: dexterity, wisdom, and intelligence. That's spreading myself a little thin. Perhaps there is a better feat I can take than weapon specialization.
balefire42 12-23-03, 05:18 PM	If you don't want swashbuckler, your original build is fine, although you could go with something like Fighter2/Ranger2/Cleric3/Rogue4/BlackFlameZealot8/PrCWithGoodBAB1