Blackguard/Assassin [Archive] - Wizards Community

Blackguard/Assassin [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Gwythion
04-25-06, 11:04 PM I played one of these a couple of years ago (back in 3.0) for a session or two, then the game dried up. I don't remember my exact build, but I know it was Human Blackguard 10/Assassin 10 (ex-paladin BG) that used 2-w fighting.

I know it's not terribly optimized, but do you guys have any input?
rilem
04-25-06, 11:17 PM Sounds subpar and illegal. You need to be Paladin11 to trade your levels for Blackguard, meaning that you'd be Pal1/Blackguard10/Asn9.

There's also the multi-ability dependency (Dex for TWF, Str for Blackguard requirements, Int for Assassin spells/Death Attack, Cha for Dark Blessing, Wisdom for BG spells, Constitution always — yep, that's all of them.)

Finally, Blackguard isn't best with TWF because Power Attack works best with a Two-handed weapon.
BloodSpill
04-25-06, 11:34 PM I worked on a theoretical Blackguard/Assassin build and came to the conclusion that the character was much better off without TWF.

The character was equipped with a scimitar (one-handed, can be held two-handed for power attacking), and on the off-hand he had a buckler and a gauntlet. The gauntlet was incase you wanted to take the to-hit penalties when an opportunity for a full-attack+sneak attacks opportunity arose (for that extra sneak attack d6s).

Seriously, your character would need a fighter background otherwise, there's so few feats available in that sort of build. :D
jstorrie
04-26-06, 12:09 AM Dipping just far enough into Blackguard to get Aura of Despair, and then focusing on your Assassin abilities may be the best way to go here.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Gwythion 04-25-06, 11:04 PM	I played one of these a couple of years ago (back in 3.0) for a session or two, then the game dried up. I don't remember my exact build, but I know it was Human Blackguard 10/Assassin 10 (ex-paladin BG) that used 2-w fighting. I know it's not terribly optimized, but do you guys have any input?
rilem 04-25-06, 11:17 PM	Sounds subpar and illegal. You need to be Paladin11 to trade your levels for Blackguard, meaning that you'd be Pal1/Blackguard10/Asn9. There's also the multi-ability dependency (Dex for TWF, Str for Blackguard requirements, Int for Assassin spells/Death Attack, Cha for Dark Blessing, Wisdom for BG spells, Constitution always — yep, that's all of them.) Finally, Blackguard isn't best with TWF because Power Attack works best with a Two-handed weapon.
BloodSpill 04-25-06, 11:34 PM	I worked on a theoretical Blackguard/Assassin build and came to the conclusion that the character was much better off without TWF. The character was equipped with a scimitar (one-handed, can be held two-handed for power attacking), and on the off-hand he had a buckler and a gauntlet. The gauntlet was incase you wanted to take the to-hit penalties when an opportunity for a full-attack+sneak attacks opportunity arose (for that extra sneak attack d6s). Seriously, your character would need a fighter background otherwise, there's so few feats available in that sort of build. :D
jstorrie 04-26-06, 12:09 AM	Dipping just far enough into Blackguard to get Aura of Despair, and then focusing on your Assassin abilities may be the best way to go here.