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daish0 02-21-07, 08:00 AM	I was thinking about a rogue/ninja/assassin type with as much attacks as possible (with an decent attack bonus = TWF, ITWF, GTWF) to optimize. Ninja, Monk, Fighter*, Iaijutsu Master, Ninja Spy * Just for the feat dip-in if it is unavoidable. But on a second thought this build doesn't seem to be as powerfull as I wanted to: Iaijutsu Focus only works on flat-footed** opponents. Sudden Strike is inferior to Sneak Attack. ** That means it is only possible to use it effectively with TWF when you are starting combat with a surprise round and then only for the first round. So I thought about involving other classes like: Rogue [Nothing to say about...] Monk [Is it worth it to dip-in for Stunning Fist with Ascetic Rogue and Pain Touch Feat?] Ninja [Maybe 3 levels for Ghost Step and Poison Use?] Swashbuckler [Seems pretty nice for BAB and Sneak with the Daring Outlaw Feat] ...? Prestige Classes: Assassin [I think this PrC is really ok, the Spells are a nice addition] Ninja Spy [I know, it isn't really optimized, but it gets Improved Evasion and Hide in Plain Sight early which really kicks ass imho and the requirements are easy to fullfill] Telflammar Shadowlord ...? I want to avoid builds which limits some basic rogue abilities, so it is nice to have a optimized TWF build which can dish godlike amounts of damage but lacks in all other jobs. Jobs in the Party: Scout [Not necessarily have to have Spot/Listen, but Search, Disable Device, Hide and Move Silently, Tumble are a must] Damage [Sneak this and that ... and that with max. possible attacks like GTWF] Survivability [He must not die :P High AC, Saves etc. recommended] Items: Self constructed items are in general no problems like "Boots of Expeditious Retreat" or "Ring of Reduce Person" ... Sources: Assume all, but 3.0, Dragon Magazine and non-official content are suspect to DM's approval. So, some 3.0 material should be ok, while other's maybe broken. Dragon Magazine is somehow "suspicious" to most players (including DM) and non-official is mostly considered "uber" and therefore a nono :P Also, avoid using _really_ broken/abused stuff like (don't know any sneak'ish 'cause I'm almost always play clerics) Divine Metamagic (Persistent) & Nightsticks etc ... So, I have absolutely no idea which classes to take to get a nice minmaxed rogue :)
mdsummer 02-21-07, 09:55 AM	Search for Machine Gun Rogue. :)
daish0 02-21-07, 10:05 AM	I actually searched for a melee build ... but ... this one is awsome :D