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Xaos of the Mind 09-30-04, 06:53 PM	So, I'm thinking about making a Blighter (the anti-druid, for those of you who've never seen it in Masters of the Wild or the Complete Divine) for a campaign I'm joining. My current plan is to go Druid 5/Blighter 10/Warshaper 5, in an attempt to make a skeletal beast of a mobile wildfire. I'm wondering, though, if this will be effective in the long-run, or if it will more likely be only a fun character to play in concept. As a blighter, I literally lose 5 levels worth of abilities I would have had from druid, which is a very bad thing for optimizing, but... Standard action 5d6 burning hands? Undead wildshapes? Double-time caster progression? I think it might be worth it. It will also put me at "huge" undead shapes a level earlier than druids reach it (14 instead of 15). The campaign's starting at 1, so I feel like I might be gimped for a few levels from 6-10 or so, which could be a problem. I was also thinking about changing the 5 levels of Warshaper to Nature's Warrior (not sure if it's allowed, have to check) or 3 Wizard and start moving on Geomancer... Also, I'll need to ask about Apes using weapons/wearing armor, because i'm fairly certain it's never been settled one way or the other. Other notes, 30 point buy starting at 8, race: human. Stats:30/30 Strength: 12 (8+4 for 12=4) Dexterity: 8 Constitution: 8 Intelligence: 14 (8+6 for 14=6) Wisdom: 18 (8+6 for 14, 4 for 16, 6 for 18 = 16) Charisma: 8 (8+4 for 12=4) Anyhow, here's my current plan, please critique and add any suggestions you have: 1: Druid 1; Feats: 1+H 2: Druid 2 3: Druid 3; Feat: 3 4: Druid 4; Wisdom +1 (19) 5: Druid 5 6: Druid 6; Feat: Natural Spell 7: Blighter 1 8: Blighter 2; Wisdom +1 (20) 9: Blighter 3; Feat: 9 10: Blighter 4 11: Blighter 5 12: Blighter 6; Wisdom +1 (21), Feat: 12 13: Blighter 7 14: Blighter 8 15: Blighter 9; Feat: Practised Spellcaster (pre-empting the Warshaper levels) 16: Blighter 10; Wisdom +1 (22) 17: Warshaper 1 18: Warshaper 2; Feat: 18 19: Warshaper 3 20: Warshaper 4; Wisdom +1 (23) I'm really not sure what will really be useful for feats, perhaps take Extra Wildshape at some point, and some of the Wildshape buffing feats from CD? Thanks in advance. -Xaos of the Mind
gbnogkfs 10-01-04, 02:40 AM	I like the blighter, but consider it limited when not in an open area when they can use Deforestation... however: are you using the MotW (3.0) or the CD (3.5) version? the 3.5 version (which I assume you are using, since you mix some 3.5 material) needs BAB +4 as a prerequisite, which you do not get until level 6... another level worth of loss abilities :) also, you don't need Practised Spellcaster while you have only druid and blighter levels, as they stack for blighter's spellcasting ability. you perhaps need it at level 16 or 17 (take it at level 18, maybe), when you finish the blighter's 10-level progression and want to take a martial class like warshaper
Xaos of the Mind 10-01-04, 09:09 AM	We're using the CD version, playing 3.5. I didn't notice the BAB discrepancy, that extra level hurts... And yeah, I don't know that I'll be able to deforest all the time, maybe I'll look into something else... Thanks for the input.
Karkul 10-01-04, 09:52 AM	I've had similiar ideas for the blighter PrC, but I ended up letting go of them. The Blighter's deforestation need is just too crippling to a player character. It would end up being the drive behind a campaign rather than the DM's story. Standard action 5d6 burning hands Pyrokineticist has a similiar ability that allows him to shoot a bolt of flame dealing 1d6/pyro level, as many times as you wish.
Xaos of the Mind 10-01-04, 10:22 AM	However, that's at the cost of a considerable amount of casting/manifesting, single target, IIRC, and psionic, which *currently* isn't allowed for the campaign.
ksbsnowowl 10-01-04, 10:52 AM	And yeah, I don't know that I'll be able to deforest all the time, maybe I'll look into something else...Take a look at the Talontar Blightlord PrC from Unapproachable East. I've always thought that it would be a good 'substitue' for the Blighter PrC. It gets nearly full spell casting progression, gains a domain, and gets some interesting abilities (and adds a template to your animal companion), but it does not gain any form of wildshape, which may have been what you were going after with the Blighter PrC.
SaintX 10-01-04, 11:01 AM	i might be off here since i dont have my books with me for reference, but could you take druid 5 nature's warrior 1 then blighter? unfortunately i think nature's warrior requires +4 BAB. so nevermind.
CubeKnight 10-01-04, 11:05 AM	i might be off here since i dont have my books with me for reference, but could you take druid 5 nature's warrior 1 then blighter? unfortunately i think nature's warrior requires +4 BAB. so nevermind. Yes, it does require +4 BAB as well.
lordxoi 11-15-04, 11:31 AM	I'm wondering if the variant druid in Unearted Arcana would help, I'd look it up but I never got my book back when I borrowed it out :mad: