Break please [Archive] - Wizards Community

Break please [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
HeroOfthePeople
11-13-06, 03:30 PM Ok, I would just like to see how badly this class can be broken. It's my created class, players will not use it, only me. I will not break it but I would just like to see how badly it can be broken, ok? here it is:

Name: Archlord
BAB: Full
CL: Full progression
Spell selection: 1 new spell per level
hit dice: d24 (I know it's not a real hit dice but I use it for this)
They get the wizard's spell list.
If they come below 3/4s of health, they cannot cast spells.

Please break.
deathwishjoe
11-13-06, 03:56 PM Ok, I would just like to see how badly this class can be broken. It's my created class, players will not use it, only me. I will not break it but I would just like to see how badly it can be broken, ok? here it is:

Name: Archlord
BAB: Full
CL: Full progression
Spell selection: 1 new spell per level
hit dice: d24 (I know it's not a real hit dice but I use it for this)
They get the wizard's spell list.
If they come below 3/4s of health, they cannot cast spells.

Please break.

a couple of questions what are the entry requirements and how long is it? the thing that makes this class broken is that it gains everything and looses out on nothing. full caster progression, full BAB and HD better then undead or a barbarian? this is a perfect gish PrC. take buff your self in the morning and use some persistent spell crazyness and then thwak stuff the rest fo the day. who cares if you can cast spells below a certain health level. all the spells you wanted to have cast are cast int he morning and the rest of the day you focus on melee.
HeroOfthePeople
11-13-06, 03:59 PM I forgot to mention it's not a prestige class. They also have no limit on spells per day. They also gain all proficentcies
MaplessManiac620
11-13-06, 04:02 PM So, they can do everything. All the time. Forever.

No thanks, I'd rather actually play the game than write down the name of a class on my sheet and declare "I win".
HeroOfthePeople
11-13-06, 04:08 PM Ok, I also forgot to mention that they can't use any healing items-or they lose their spellcasting ability. Sorry about forgetting the details.
I'm not trying to break the game on purpose. I'm the DM in this game and I'm the one who is using this guy as a villian. He won't be broken in that game, but I just want to know how broken it is. Everytime they gain a new spell level, they get only one spell for that level. Nothing else.

I just wanted to know if it could be broken.
Seeker of Truth
11-13-06, 04:13 PM It's not that it can be broken, it's that it is broken without even trying. Each level in your archlord class should probably add 1.5 - 2 to CR to make it balanced.
Aegeu
11-13-06, 04:14 PM Even one spell can be devastating. Gate and MDJ every round at will? Yes please. It doesn't matter that they can't cast below 3/4ths health. With celerity at will, they're untouchable.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
HeroOfthePeople 11-13-06, 03:30 PM	Ok, I would just like to see how badly this class can be broken. It's my created class, players will not use it, only me. I will not break it but I would just like to see how badly it can be broken, ok? here it is: Name: Archlord BAB: Full CL: Full progression Spell selection: 1 new spell per level hit dice: d24 (I know it's not a real hit dice but I use it for this) They get the wizard's spell list. If they come below 3/4s of health, they cannot cast spells. Please break.
deathwishjoe 11-13-06, 03:56 PM	Ok, I would just like to see how badly this class can be broken. It's my created class, players will not use it, only me. I will not break it but I would just like to see how badly it can be broken, ok? here it is: Name: Archlord BAB: Full CL: Full progression Spell selection: 1 new spell per level hit dice: d24 (I know it's not a real hit dice but I use it for this) They get the wizard's spell list. If they come below 3/4s of health, they cannot cast spells. Please break. a couple of questions what are the entry requirements and how long is it? the thing that makes this class broken is that it gains everything and looses out on nothing. full caster progression, full BAB and HD better then undead or a barbarian? this is a perfect gish PrC. take buff your self in the morning and use some persistent spell crazyness and then thwak stuff the rest fo the day. who cares if you can cast spells below a certain health level. all the spells you wanted to have cast are cast int he morning and the rest of the day you focus on melee.
HeroOfthePeople 11-13-06, 03:59 PM	I forgot to mention it's not a prestige class. They also have no limit on spells per day. They also gain all proficentcies
MaplessManiac620 11-13-06, 04:02 PM	So, they can do everything. All the time. Forever. No thanks, I'd rather actually play the game than write down the name of a class on my sheet and declare "I win".
HeroOfthePeople 11-13-06, 04:08 PM	Ok, I also forgot to mention that they can't use any healing items-or they lose their spellcasting ability. Sorry about forgetting the details. I'm not trying to break the game on purpose. I'm the DM in this game and I'm the one who is using this guy as a villian. He won't be broken in that game, but I just want to know how broken it is. Everytime they gain a new spell level, they get only one spell for that level. Nothing else. I just wanted to know if it could be broken.
Seeker of Truth 11-13-06, 04:13 PM	It's not that it can be broken, it's that it is broken without even trying. Each level in your archlord class should probably add 1.5 - 2 to CR to make it balanced.
Aegeu 11-13-06, 04:14 PM	Even one spell can be devastating. Gate and MDJ every round at will? Yes please. It doesn't matter that they can't cast below 3/4ths health. With celerity at will, they're untouchable.