Break these for me? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Break these for me? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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wolfie-kun
07-06-06, 12:11 AM I wanted to ask if you guys would help me see if there are any major holes (mechanically, anyway) that need fixing with my homebrew classes.

Here's #1, the Shinobi.

#2, The Summoner

And #3, The Speed Grappler

("You guys" in the above usage refers to anyone kind enough to reply with some constructive criticism.)
Valanthe
07-06-06, 12:42 AM Seems... good. I mean, it's a little strong, but nothing overpowered. It's the toughest of the trapfinders, and has good will saves, a traditional weakness. But it also has lower skills, and its abilities either aren't as useful, or are farther back (SA).

Nothing "breaking" about it, especially since the SA is on the even levels. If you didn't do that, you'd be the favorite dip for SA ever.
wolfie-kun
07-06-06, 12:47 AM Seems... good. I mean, it's a little strong, but nothing overpowered. It's the toughest of the trapfinders, and has good will saves, a traditional weakness. But it also has lower skills, and its abilities either aren't as useful, or are farther back (SA).

Nothing "breaking" about it, especially since the SA is on the even levels. If you didn't do that, you'd be the favorite dip for SA ever.
Thanks for looking at it. :)

Is it specifically the HD and the Will saves that make it strong?

I mean, are any of the abilities individually too powerful?
Tweedledope
07-06-06, 01:04 AM I was actually going to mention that this class seems kind of weak to me. The Shadowstrike ability is totally awesome...however, the bonus feat list (of which, I despise "bonus feats"...they seem like fillers to me) is pretty poor.

I think a good combo for this class would be Thief-Acrobat for sure. This class would also be wicked if teamed up with the Ninja Spy from Oriental Adventures..shazam!

-=TD=-
wolfie-kun
07-06-06, 01:09 AM I was actually going to mention that this class seems kind of weak to me. The Shadowstrike ability is totally awesome...however, the bonus feat list (of which, I despise "bonus feats"...they seem like fillers to me) is pretty poor.
-=TD=-
:crazy:
Massive fix to that useless list. They get 1 fewer, but much better quality choice. :D

EDIT: The above comments were in response to the original request of simply examining the Shinobi. I recently realized that the Shinobi isn't the one I need to be concerned about power-wise.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
wolfie-kun 07-06-06, 12:11 AM	I wanted to ask if you guys would help me see if there are any major holes (mechanically, anyway) that need fixing with my homebrew classes. Here's #1, the Shinobi. #2, The Summoner And #3, The Speed Grappler ("You guys" in the above usage refers to anyone kind enough to reply with some constructive criticism.)
Valanthe 07-06-06, 12:42 AM	Seems... good. I mean, it's a little strong, but nothing overpowered. It's the toughest of the trapfinders, and has good will saves, a traditional weakness. But it also has lower skills, and its abilities either aren't as useful, or are farther back (SA). Nothing "breaking" about it, especially since the SA is on the even levels. If you didn't do that, you'd be the favorite dip for SA ever.
wolfie-kun 07-06-06, 12:47 AM	Seems... good. I mean, it's a little strong, but nothing overpowered. It's the toughest of the trapfinders, and has good will saves, a traditional weakness. But it also has lower skills, and its abilities either aren't as useful, or are farther back (SA). Nothing "breaking" about it, especially since the SA is on the even levels. If you didn't do that, you'd be the favorite dip for SA ever. Thanks for looking at it. :) Is it specifically the HD and the Will saves that make it strong? I mean, are any of the abilities individually too powerful?
Tweedledope 07-06-06, 01:04 AM	I was actually going to mention that this class seems kind of weak to me. The Shadowstrike ability is totally awesome...however, the bonus feat list (of which, I despise "bonus feats"...they seem like fillers to me) is pretty poor. I think a good combo for this class would be Thief-Acrobat for sure. This class would also be wicked if teamed up with the Ninja Spy from Oriental Adventures..shazam! -=TD=-
wolfie-kun 07-06-06, 01:09 AM	I was actually going to mention that this class seems kind of weak to me. The Shadowstrike ability is totally awesome...however, the bonus feat list (of which, I despise "bonus feats"...they seem like fillers to me) is pretty poor. -=TD=- :crazy: Massive fix to that useless list. They get 1 fewer, but much better quality choice. :D EDIT: The above comments were in response to the original request of simply examining the Shinobi. I recently realized that the Shinobi isn't the one I need to be concerned about power-wise.