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ooh80 06-28-04, 03:54 PM	I´m only going to make a 12th level built to show u guys how this character reeks of uberness. This character can then be optimized to hell by guys more qualified Half-Celestial/Half-Human: Using LA buyoff (Could use Aasimar or LA 0 Aasimar) 32 point buy with Half-Celestial bonuses, items, and inherent bonuses for 12th level PB HC IB Items Str: 8 + 4 + + = 12 Dex: 10 + 2 + + = 12 Con: 8 + 4 + + = 12 Int: 18 + 2 + + = 20 Wis: 18 + 4 + 1 + 6 = 29 Cha: 18 + 4 + 2 + 6 = 30 MW = Mystic Wanderer from Magic of Faerun Con = Contemplative (3.0) Cloistered Cleric = Bookworm version of cleric from Domains: Spell, Magic, Knowledge (cloistered cleric), Mysticism (contemplative) Cloistered Cleric of Mystra(UA)1 Iron Will, Extra Turning Cleric2 Cleric3 Extend Spell Cleric4 Cleric5 Cleric5/MW1 Extra Turning Cleric6/MW1 Cleric7/MW1 Cleric8/MW1 Persistent Spell Cleric9/MW1 Cleric10/MW1 Cleric10/MW1/Con1 Divine Metamagic (Persistent Spell) This guy has (3+Cha (+10) + 2xExtra Turning (+8)) 21 turning attempts and can therefore make 3 spells persistent, divine power, righteous might, and polymorph self (planetar, using ankh of ascension or smt.) The result is a killing machine: Huge (with reach to match), if DM allows righteous might to increase the size of a planetar, if not use a medium sized celestial (Astral Deva), not that much of a difference) Fly 90 ft (good), Str: 39, Dex: 19, Con: 24, Int: 20, Wis: 29, Cha: 30 AC: NA +23 (19 (planetar) + 4 (righteous might), +9 Monks Belt, +10 Mystic Wanderer Armor bonus from Cha, +4 Dex, +10 base -2 for size = 54 (Not counting magical items) damage reduction 15/evil All Half-Celestial goodies (like SR 22, DR 10/Magic, spells and resistances) Saves are pretty high with +10 from Contemplative save bonus from Mysticism domain Decent skill points from Cloistered cleric 6+Int skills and High Int 6th level cleric spells Add to the mix divine favor, a good magical huge (gargantuan?) greatsword, some other prestige classes (like maybe dweomerkeeper, sacred exorcist) and more magical items. Let me know if i´m doing anything wrong here. I did this is 15 minutes and needs more work. Help me optimize this guy to 20th level. Greetings from Iceland!!
Pathanus 06-28-04, 04:43 PM	You will have to keep wealth in mind when creating that type of character. 2 +6 items are pretty expensive plus Monk's belt, but I think within the wealth for a 16th level character. You would have to buyoff LA's at 6th and 9th for the +2 BoED version, or 12, 21, 27, 30 for the +4 MM version, and i'm not sure the BoED version has the same stat bonuses as the MM version. You can't Polymorph into a Planetar yet, until you reach a caster level of 15 (since it has 15 HD), but Astral Deva is a go since you are a 12th level caster. Looks pretty good, but your other party members are probably going to be at least 2 levels higher (from spending some exp on level buyoffs). So do you have a way to deal with Greater Dispel Magic or Force Cage? Path
ooh80 06-28-04, 05:44 PM	With ankh of ascension (+4 caster level) i could polymorph into a planeter. You´re right about the money problem. I didn´t calculate it. I could take Initiate of Mystra and cast a persistent antimagic field against greater dispel magic and force cage and still use my buffs
Blade2718 06-28-04, 06:24 PM	If you're talking about your specific example, then congratulations on finding yourself an awesome polymorph form. If you're talking about the idea of an outsider polymorphing into an awesome outsider form, then you're a little late to the party. Witness the Cheater of Mystra (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=207643#post2947088)(TM, Funny Slaughter and Neonsamurai)
Vecna 06-28-04, 07:47 PM	You can use Greater Anyspell to prepare Draconic Polymorph, that has a personal range and can be made persistent.
Mucknuggle 06-29-04, 07:41 AM	Been there, done that (see the Cheater of Mystra and my posts about abusing it with Greater Anyspell/Draconic Polymorph). BTW, I would consider the Kelvezu a better form just because of the 8d6 SA dice. But then again, a really high strength is good too.