Buckle that Swash [Archive] - Wizards Community

Buckle that Swash [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
TinManFan
11-19-05, 04:43 PM Lookin for a good rapier (Or elven thinblade) swingin character. Thing is, don't care if it's a melee or magic user.

Thinking either a Elven wizard bladesinger (w/ arcane strike and sub lvls to get a +8 on init by lvl 3)

or

a swashbuckler/duelist/tempest/assasin whatever mix.

Basicly, I askin how to make these characters to overcome their armor restrictions and increase their survivability. Don't wanna spend 5 rounds buffing. My party usually only takes 3-4 rounds to off the bad guys.

Thank y'all very much.
Seerow
11-19-05, 04:52 PM Duelist and Tempest don't mix well, iirc Duelist doesnt let you hold a weapon in your off hand.
TinManFan
11-19-05, 04:57 PM Just saying you can make anything in there, don't have to use the listed PrCs or Base classes.
DrowSmurf
11-19-05, 05:05 PM if you like the elf swashbuckler idea then try that PrC from races of the wild... the Champion of CL, by 2nd level to get Dex to damage...
Wordsmyth
11-19-05, 05:17 PM Swashbuckler and Champion of Corellon Larethian both give +DEX to Damage when using a finessable weapon. The ironic thing is that this favours a two-weapon fighter, not a one-handed rapier wielding swashbuckler.

Still, it works.
Prominence
11-19-05, 05:43 PM swash gives +int, not dex to damage.
X-Codes
11-19-05, 08:40 PM Swash 3/Rogue 3/Fighter 2/CoCL 2/Dervish 10

Int, Dex, Str to damage plus an extra 5 from Dervish and... yeah. Use the Court Sword and the "slashing" armor spikes (I think they're in Underdark, not certain...).
AramilWindwalker
11-19-05, 09:39 PM those are probably callled armor razors, i would imagine
Timlagor
11-20-05, 01:18 AM Swash 3/Rogue 3/Fighter 2/CoCL 2/Dervish 10

Int, Dex, Str to damage plus an extra 5 from Dervish and... yeah. Use the Court Sword and the "slashing" armor spikes (I think they're in Underdark, not certain...).

Oooh now that is a neat weapon combo. Shame I can't use those spikes.

If you drop the Rogue for Ranger in that build you can take 2 levels of Wildrunner for an addition 10' move and the Primal Scream (+2Str +6Dex Con-based duration; 3+Cha/day; no penalty when it wears off). There's also something to be said for taking another 4 levels of WRunner for Pounce [a truly silly rules item imo] in which case you've pretty much given up on Dervish..

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
TinManFan 11-19-05, 04:43 PM	Lookin for a good rapier (Or elven thinblade) swingin character. Thing is, don't care if it's a melee or magic user. Thinking either a Elven wizard bladesinger (w/ arcane strike and sub lvls to get a +8 on init by lvl 3) or a swashbuckler/duelist/tempest/assasin whatever mix. Basicly, I askin how to make these characters to overcome their armor restrictions and increase their survivability. Don't wanna spend 5 rounds buffing. My party usually only takes 3-4 rounds to off the bad guys. Thank y'all very much.
Seerow 11-19-05, 04:52 PM	Duelist and Tempest don't mix well, iirc Duelist doesnt let you hold a weapon in your off hand.
TinManFan 11-19-05, 04:57 PM	Just saying you can make anything in there, don't have to use the listed PrCs or Base classes.
DrowSmurf 11-19-05, 05:05 PM	if you like the elf swashbuckler idea then try that PrC from races of the wild... the Champion of CL, by 2nd level to get Dex to damage...
Wordsmyth 11-19-05, 05:17 PM	Swashbuckler and Champion of Corellon Larethian both give +DEX to Damage when using a finessable weapon. The ironic thing is that this favours a two-weapon fighter, not a one-handed rapier wielding swashbuckler. Still, it works.
Prominence 11-19-05, 05:43 PM	swash gives +int, not dex to damage.
X-Codes 11-19-05, 08:40 PM	Swash 3/Rogue 3/Fighter 2/CoCL 2/Dervish 10 Int, Dex, Str to damage plus an extra 5 from Dervish and... yeah. Use the Court Sword and the "slashing" armor spikes (I think they're in Underdark, not certain...).
AramilWindwalker 11-19-05, 09:39 PM	those are probably callled armor razors, i would imagine
Timlagor 11-20-05, 01:18 AM	Swash 3/Rogue 3/Fighter 2/CoCL 2/Dervish 10 Int, Dex, Str to damage plus an extra 5 from Dervish and... yeah. Use the Court Sword and the "slashing" armor spikes (I think they're in Underdark, not certain...). Oooh now that is a neat weapon combo. Shame I can't use those spikes. If you drop the Rogue for Ranger in that build you can take 2 levels of Wildrunner for an addition 10' move and the Primal Scream (+2Str +6Dex Con-based duration; 3+Cha/day; no penalty when it wears off). There's also something to be said for taking another 4 levels of WRunner for Pounce [a truly silly rules item imo] in which case you've pretty much given up on Dervish..