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marrithl2

01-11-07, 08:58 PM
I made these two builds to go with my Harrier Class (found in my sig.) and I'm just wondering which one of the two you guys would say works best. (note: I cannot take any prestige classes or multiclass and I've been messing with this for some time so please don't post new ideas, just help me decide between the two. Thanks a lot! :))

Feat Rogue Build

trapfinding, evasion, trap sense, uncanny/improved uncanny dodge, special abilities, plus the reflex save and 8+INT skill points.

1 Two Weapon Fighting, Improved Two Weapon Fighting,
Oversized Two Weapon Fighting, Monkey Grip, Combat Reflexes
2 Karmic Strike
3 Double Hit
4 Deft Opportunist
5
6 Quick Draw, Evasive Reflexes
7
8 Power Attack
9 Leap Attack
10 Marked Power Attack (as Favored Power Attack)
11
12 Robilar's Gambit, Reckless Charge
13
14 Furious Charge
15 Close Quarters Fighting
16 Two Weapong Rend
17
18 Marked Critical (as Favored Critical), Improved Critical
19
20 Defensive Sweep


Swordsage Build

Quick to Acct, AC bonus from Wisdom (Wisdom stackage for the two classes), sense magic, evasion, improved evasion, plus the reflex save.




Maneuvers Stances Feats
1 Burning Blade, Counter Charge, Shadow Blade Technique, Child of Shadow Combat reflexes, Karmic Strike,
Stone Bones, Charging Minotaur, Sapphire Nightmare Blade Adaptive Style, Quick Draw
2 Wind Stride Hunter's Sense
3 Flashing Sun Power Attack
4 Shadow Jaunt (Replace Man. for Burning Hand)
5 Fan the Flames Assassin Stance
6 Bonecrusher (Replace Man. for Shadow Garrote) Evasive Reflexes
7 Searing Blade
8 Searing Charge (Replace Man. for Bounding Assault)
9 Dancing Mongoose Dance of the Spider Leap Attack
10 Pouncing Charge (Replace Man. for Shadow Stride)
11 Stalker in the Night
12 Rabid Bear Strike (Replace Man. for Moment of Alacrity) Robilar's Gambit
13 Ancient Mountain Hammer
14 Inferno Blade (Replace Man. for Shadow Pounce) Press the Advantage
15 Raging Mongoose Marked Power Attack
16 Adamantine Bones (Replace Man. for Diamond Defense)
17 Inferno Blast Wolfpack Tactics
18 Time Stands Still (Replace Man. for Shadow Blink) Reckless Charge
19 Wyrm's Flame
20 XXX (Replace Man. for XXX)
Xeraph

01-12-07, 04:30 AM
I would go with the Swordsage, Not only will it possibly be the most powerful choice, it will also be fun and full of different opportunities for your character throughout all levels.
I don't understand why you have taken both Rombilar's Gambit and Leap Attack? Are you a charger or a battlefield controller? I mean, do one of them, not both. If you plan on charge/pounce focus on a big weapon, Jovar og Minotaur Axe preferably, and just smash the hell out of people. I would go with Warblade for this, since charging leaves you open for attacks the round after.
Battlefield control? Wheres Stand Still, Improved Combat Reflexes and Great Combat Reflexes? And yes, something tells me Crusader and Warblade will be better at this as well.

Swordsage is a ninja. Surprise you foes, Spring attack them, flank and TWF them, support you other group members with annoying crippling hits and mobility. But try to be a tank, and you will lose out.

Wait, is this gestalt? Then go Swordsage. But still, think about you combat expertise, don't spread your butter to thin with those feats.
marrithl2

01-12-07, 11:26 AM
Yes this character is gestalt (has to be 20 on both sides). I can't find Improved combat reflexes or Greater combat reflexes. I like the stand still feat, but I don't think I'd take it.

I took robilar's gambit and leap attack because I like the versatility it provides...
Xeraph

01-12-07, 12:11 PM
It is Dragon Magazine, check www.crystalkeep.com
marrithl2

01-12-07, 01:36 PM
I just found out that the improved combat reflexes is an epic feat only... There is one on these boards, but it is neither good or allowable in my campaign. I still don't know where greater combat reflexes is.

Anyone else out there to help me with my decision?
marrithl2

01-12-07, 02:54 PM
oh, thanks I found the feat. I like it, but I wouldn't take the Greater Combat Reflexes because -10 is not likely to hit much. :) Thanks for bringing that to my attention.
marrithl2

01-12-07, 08:42 PM
One more thing... where can I find that Jovar og Minotaur Axe?