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Nezu Chiza 02-11-06, 01:27 AM	Alright, looking for help to get a character into this prestige class as early as possible and ending up with the highest possible caster level progression in both arcane and divine once 20th level is reached. Assume stats of 18, 18, 17, 16, 14, 14, starting level of 1, all core and splat books allowed, and LA races of up to +1(+2 if a good enough case is made for a race with a LA that high). LA buyoff will be allowed. Thanks in advance for any and all help!
fnord 02-11-06, 01:35 AM	Wee. Kobold Psion 12/Fochlucan Lyrist 8. Or look here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=377248)
Slyver 02-11-06, 03:30 AM	The earliest you can get into the FL is level 11. It requires 13 ranks in a skill and there is no getting around that whatsoever. Getting in at level 11 is a piece of cake. It requires no special thought at all. What does take thought, like everything else, is optimizing said FL with the type of character you want to play. FL builds are one of my specialties. I absolutely love both the FL and the bard for optimization purposes. If you tell me what kind of character you want to play I will make it for you. Some options are: Wildshaping druid/Bard with 9th level sorcerer spells Very nasty archer duel wielding goody goody (very powerful) Bard song focused (many are anyways, some more than others) Full Rogue capabilities Specialized healers (mostly) full wizard casters Don't pick one of the builds above, just let me know the flavor for the character and I will suggest a build. Slyver
Nezu Chiza 02-11-06, 06:44 AM	Basically, looking for as good a support character I can get. Buffs from arcane and divine spells, bard songs to back it up. If they can do good damage in combat as well, all the better. And fnord, thanks for the link. Wish the forums had a search feature so I could have found it before starting a thread :P
Xeraph 02-11-06, 07:22 AM	It took me about 2 minutes to find the FL thread in the Important Thread Index - Some Handy Links for CO Work. :D
Nezu Chiza 02-11-06, 06:05 PM	It took me about 2 minutes to find the FL thread in the Important Thread Index - Some Handy Links for CO Work. :D Well, good for you. Thanks for contributing that info to this thread. It's always nice to see someone showing their abilities after someone already pointed the thread out to me. I appreciate it!
Slyver 02-11-06, 08:48 PM	Opps, double post.
Slyver 02-11-06, 08:48 PM	For a heavy support character you might try the following. Race: Human Template: Shadow (great template +2 LA (buy it off) grants evasion) 1 Bard Lingering song, Practiced spellcaster (Bard) 2 Cleric Glory and charm domains (probably) 3 Bard Practiced spellcaster (Cleric) 4 Cleric 5 Cleric 6 Cleric Initiate of milil 7 Bard 8 Bard 9 Bard Words of creation 10 Bard 11 Fochlucan Lyrist 12 Sublime Chord Song of the heart 13 Fochlucan Lyrist 14 Fochlucan Lyrist 15 Fochlucan Lyrist Subsonics 16 Fochlucan Lyrist 17 Fochlucan Lyrist 18 Fochlucan Lyrist Snowflake wardance or arcane strike or whatever 19 Fochlucan Lyrist 20 Fochlucan Lyrist BAB 16 Fort 9 Ref 11 (evasion) Will 17 Bardic music 19 including all bardic songs Very strong bard song Bardic caster level 20 (3rd level spells) Sublime chord caster level 20 (9th level spells all sorcerer and bard list to choose from) Cleric caster level 17 (7th level spells) Fast healing Constant concealment (thus the subsonics, for flavor) Extremely strong support character and still decent in melee (extremely good if you want him to be with spells and buffs, shapechange with 16 bab and full cleric and bard buffs and songs (and potentially snowflake wardance or arcane strike)). He's a monster. Slyver
Nezu Chiza 02-12-06, 03:02 AM	Oooh, that's what I was looking for, Slyver. Thanks for the assist!
Slyver 02-12-06, 04:18 AM	Noproblemwhatsoever. Don't forget, as with all FL builds without druid in it (which is actually most of the well optimized ones) you have to somehow learn druidic by level 11. This is purely a roleplaying issue. It requires charming, bribing, strongarming, seducing or otherwise influencing a druid (or ex-druid (anyone with 1 level of druid)) to teach you their secret language. It is certainly within the rules for this to happen and should make for some fun roleplaying. Slyver