Building a Swordsage sneaky dude. [Archive] - Wizards Community

Building a Swordsage sneaky dude. [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Radijs
11-08-06, 04:19 PM I’m going to play in a Midnight campaign setting in a little while and I was going to try my hand at a swordsage from Tome Of Battle. The campaign will start at ECL8 and 28-point buy for stat generation.
And I was looking at trying my hand at variant of this build:
http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=9896032&postcount=190

I’ll be playing one of the human variants which are a bit better then the normal DnD humans.
These gain 2 human bonus feats at level 1 and 8 skill points as well as 2 skill points per level.
The ability scores I generated: (These include the 2 points gained at level 4 and 8 respectively.)
Strength 10
Dexterity 18
Constitution 12
Intelligence 10
Wisdom 16
Charisma 8

The extra feat will let me drop 1 fighter level in exchange for another swordsage level leaving me with the following progression:
Swordsage 2/fighter 1/Swordsage+4/Master of the nine1

Feat progression:
Human: Adaptive style, Desert wind dodge
1: Improved initiative
SS1: (monk variant)unarmed strike, weapon focus (Shadowhand)
Fighter 1: Blind fight
3: ShadowBlade
6: Blade meditation (shadowhand)

There’s just one thing I’m wondering about.
The original build takes 2 levels in fighter but only seems to lose 1 initiator level. Where does the initiator level come from when the original build takes its second fighter level?

On the other hand I could also take the second fighter level going for Swordsage 1fighter 2Swordsage+4/Master of the nine1 and take two weapon fighting early on at level two or three.
LogicNinja
11-08-06, 04:41 PM Your initiator level for any Martial Adept class is equal to your levels in that class, plus 1/2 of all your other levels. So a swordsage 2/Fighter 2 has an IL of 2 (SS) + 1 (Fighter 2 /2) = 3. A Fighter 20 has an IL of 10.
Radijs
11-08-06, 04:55 PM Ah thank you. It was something I probably missed while reading TOB.

I just noticed that the build uses a class thats very dependant on DEX alongside WIS but doesn't include weapon finesse to take advantages of such high scores.
So I will be taking an additional fighter level and grab that extra feat.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Radijs 11-08-06, 04:19 PM	I’m going to play in a Midnight campaign setting in a little while and I was going to try my hand at a swordsage from Tome Of Battle. The campaign will start at ECL8 and 28-point buy for stat generation. And I was looking at trying my hand at variant of this build: http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=9896032&postcount=190 I’ll be playing one of the human variants which are a bit better then the normal DnD humans. These gain 2 human bonus feats at level 1 and 8 skill points as well as 2 skill points per level. The ability scores I generated: (These include the 2 points gained at level 4 and 8 respectively.) Strength 10 Dexterity 18 Constitution 12 Intelligence 10 Wisdom 16 Charisma 8 The extra feat will let me drop 1 fighter level in exchange for another swordsage level leaving me with the following progression: Swordsage 2/fighter 1/Swordsage+4/Master of the nine1 Feat progression: Human: Adaptive style, Desert wind dodge 1: Improved initiative SS1: (monk variant)unarmed strike, weapon focus (Shadowhand) Fighter 1: Blind fight 3: ShadowBlade 6: Blade meditation (shadowhand) There’s just one thing I’m wondering about. The original build takes 2 levels in fighter but only seems to lose 1 initiator level. Where does the initiator level come from when the original build takes its second fighter level? On the other hand I could also take the second fighter level going for Swordsage 1fighter 2Swordsage+4/Master of the nine1 and take two weapon fighting early on at level two or three.
LogicNinja 11-08-06, 04:41 PM	Your initiator level for any Martial Adept class is equal to your levels in that class, plus 1/2 of all your other levels. So a swordsage 2/Fighter 2 has an IL of 2 (SS) + 1 (Fighter 2 /2) = 3. A Fighter 20 has an IL of 10.
Radijs 11-08-06, 04:55 PM	Ah thank you. It was something I probably missed while reading TOB. I just noticed that the build uses a class thats very dependant on DEX alongside WIS but doesn't include weapon finesse to take advantages of such high scores. So I will be taking an additional fighter level and grab that extra feat.