A new Inner Planes cosmology: 146 inner planes! [Archive] - Wizards Community

A new Inner Planes cosmology: 146 inner planes! [Archive] - Wizards Community

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RavinRay
04-01-07, 12:16 AM http://www.crystalgrowing.com/crystal-lab/povray/146-faces.png
The default D&D cosmology has only 6 Inner Planes arranged like the faces of a cube. Earlier editions of the game went further, with 12 planes bordering the 6 main planes: 4 paraelemental planes, and 8 quasielemental planes, each with the properties of the adjoining elemental or energy planes in equal abundance. But, what if the mixing of planar traits was not equal? How many planes would you get then? Would you believe 146?! Let's break it down.

The polyhedra depicted shows the relationships of these planes. The 6 elemental and energy planes are represented by the 6 yellow squares at 90-degrees to each other.
http://metafysica.nl/bruhns_17.jpg

The 12 paraelemental and quasielemental planes are represented by the salmon-colored octagons, at 45-degrees to the yellow planes. Taken along, they form a rhombic dodecahedron.
http://metafysica.nl/bruhns_18.jpghttp://etc.usf.edu/clipart/20100/20185/cubedodec_20185_sm.gif

The 8 cyan-colored hexagons represent an equal three-way mixing of two elements and one energy. Taken alone, they form an octahedron.
http://metafysica.nl/bruhns_16.jpg

Between the elemental and paraelemental planes are 8 blue-green rectangles that represent a higher dominance for one element/energy over another. Between the elemental/energy and quasielemental planes are 16 blue-green rectangles that represent a higher dominance for either the element or energy over the other. Taken with the other 8, they collectively form a tetrahexahedron with 24 sides.
http://metafysica.nl/bruhns_21.jpghttp://etc.usf.edu/clipart/20100/20189/tethexhedron_20189_sm.gifhttp://etc.usf.edu/clipart/20100/20190/cubetetra_20190_sm.gif

The rest of the planes have three elemental/energy traits each, but in differing strengths.

The 24 red hexagons represent planes that have two traits equal in strength and stronger than the third.
http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/20100/20195/trisoctahdrn_20195_sm.gifhttp://metafysica.nl/bruhns_20.gif

The 24 magenta pentagons represent planes that have two traits also equal in strength to each other but weaker than the third.
http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/20100/20191/trapezohedrn_20191_sm.gifhttp://metafysica.nl/bruhns_19.jpg

Finally, the 48 green hexagons represent planes where each trait is different in strength from the other two.
http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/20100/20197/hexoctahedrn_20197_sm.gif

So there you have it, 146 Inner Planes, coterminous to other adjoining planes. Or maybe it's just one Inner Plane (like the Omniverse cosmology in the Manual of the Planes), and these are all layer of that plane; not stacked one above the other, but adjoining and forming a rough sphere.
Oninotaki
04-01-07, 01:05 AM Thats super sweet!!!! I have been looking for something to update my darksun cosmology with!!!
mythSSK
04-01-07, 04:17 AM Now you just need to name them, RavinRay ;)
Romtos
04-01-07, 07:50 AM Now you just need to name them, RavinRay ;)

My first thought exactly.
sciborg2
04-01-07, 12:22 PM Haha...good to have you back mythSSK!

Still, this is pretty cool, I can see this kind of stuff being debated in varied planar colleges...its kinda funny/sad Sigil doesn't seem to have a university.
RavinRay
04-02-07, 01:10 AM Now you just need to name them, RavinRay ;)
Uh... I hadn't thought of that. I'm stumped. Ya got me there. Anyway, I'd like to thank my professors for my experiences in college mineralogy class, where we learned all about the wonderful world of crystals. If memorizing 6 crystal classes, 32 crystal system, and 48 crystal forms wasn't daunting enough... wait a minute, am I sounding like a psionic rogue modron? Ah well.

It's the first day of the old calendar! Or where your colleagues mocking you for a fool for forgetting that we've a new calendar now? :D
Rocketboy13
04-02-07, 01:50 AM Ah. Trig, I didn't miss this in the least.
Oninotaki
04-02-07, 02:30 AM although I do have to admit that at this point havent you just made the material plane?
sals
04-09-07, 06:47 PM Cool. I like this cosmology. Might make better sense as regions of one big elemental plane. Might also be cool to do a similar thing for the outer planes.
Slightly_Unscrewed
04-09-07, 09:33 PM This looks...really, really complicated.
Kobold Avenger
04-09-07, 10:00 PM You could probably start with all of those border regions mentioned in the Guide to the Inner Planes (6 each for most of the para and quasi-elemental planes, with some overlaps and exceptions), and expanding them into planes.
Harkle
04-11-07, 01:24 AM If I wasn't so busy with my current campaign (who would have thought an Anime themed Gestalt campaign would be so much work) I would start namein the planes for your. I really enjoy planar stuff, especially a particular area I call "Planar Geometry", basicly studying the shape and structure of the planes.

But I do think your method may be a little overkill, still interesting though, and I'm sure you have room in that cosmology for the Elemental Plane of Beer.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
RavinRay 04-01-07, 12:16 AM	http://www.crystalgrowing.com/crystal-lab/povray/146-faces.png The default D&D cosmology has only 6 Inner Planes arranged like the faces of a cube. Earlier editions of the game went further, with 12 planes bordering the 6 main planes: 4 paraelemental planes, and 8 quasielemental planes, each with the properties of the adjoining elemental or energy planes in equal abundance. But, what if the mixing of planar traits was not equal? How many planes would you get then? Would you believe 146?! Let's break it down. The polyhedra depicted shows the relationships of these planes. The 6 elemental and energy planes are represented by the 6 yellow squares at 90-degrees to each other. http://metafysica.nl/bruhns_17.jpg The 12 paraelemental and quasielemental planes are represented by the salmon-colored octagons, at 45-degrees to the yellow planes. Taken along, they form a rhombic dodecahedron. http://metafysica.nl/bruhns_18.jpghttp://etc.usf.edu/clipart/20100/20185/cubedodec_20185_sm.gif The 8 cyan-colored hexagons represent an equal three-way mixing of two elements and one energy. Taken alone, they form an octahedron. http://metafysica.nl/bruhns_16.jpg Between the elemental and paraelemental planes are 8 blue-green rectangles that represent a higher dominance for one element/energy over another. Between the elemental/energy and quasielemental planes are 16 blue-green rectangles that represent a higher dominance for either the element or energy over the other. Taken with the other 8, they collectively form a tetrahexahedron with 24 sides. http://metafysica.nl/bruhns_21.jpghttp://etc.usf.edu/clipart/20100/20189/tethexhedron_20189_sm.gifhttp://etc.usf.edu/clipart/20100/20190/cubetetra_20190_sm.gif The rest of the planes have three elemental/energy traits each, but in differing strengths. The 24 red hexagons represent planes that have two traits equal in strength and stronger than the third. http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/20100/20195/trisoctahdrn_20195_sm.gifhttp://metafysica.nl/bruhns_20.gif The 24 magenta pentagons represent planes that have two traits also equal in strength to each other but weaker than the third. http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/20100/20191/trapezohedrn_20191_sm.gifhttp://metafysica.nl/bruhns_19.jpg Finally, the 48 green hexagons represent planes where each trait is different in strength from the other two. http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/20100/20197/hexoctahedrn_20197_sm.gif So there you have it, 146 Inner Planes, coterminous to other adjoining planes. Or maybe it's just one Inner Plane (like the Omniverse cosmology in the Manual of the Planes), and these are all layer of that plane; not stacked one above the other, but adjoining and forming a rough sphere.
Oninotaki 04-01-07, 01:05 AM	Thats super sweet!!!! I have been looking for something to update my darksun cosmology with!!!
mythSSK 04-01-07, 04:17 AM	Now you just need to name them, RavinRay ;)
Romtos 04-01-07, 07:50 AM	Now you just need to name them, RavinRay ;) My first thought exactly.
sciborg2 04-01-07, 12:22 PM	Haha...good to have you back mythSSK! Still, this is pretty cool, I can see this kind of stuff being debated in varied planar colleges...its kinda funny/sad Sigil doesn't seem to have a university.
RavinRay 04-02-07, 01:10 AM	Now you just need to name them, RavinRay ;) Uh... I hadn't thought of that. I'm stumped. Ya got me there. Anyway, I'd like to thank my professors for my experiences in college mineralogy class, where we learned all about the wonderful world of crystals. If memorizing 6 crystal classes, 32 crystal system, and 48 crystal forms wasn't daunting enough... wait a minute, am I sounding like a psionic rogue modron? Ah well. It's the first day of the old calendar! Or where your colleagues mocking you for a fool for forgetting that we've a new calendar now? :D
Rocketboy13 04-02-07, 01:50 AM	Ah. Trig, I didn't miss this in the least.
Oninotaki 04-02-07, 02:30 AM	although I do have to admit that at this point havent you just made the material plane?
sals 04-09-07, 06:47 PM	Cool. I like this cosmology. Might make better sense as regions of one big elemental plane. Might also be cool to do a similar thing for the outer planes.
Slightly_Unscrewed 04-09-07, 09:33 PM	This looks...really, really complicated.
Kobold Avenger 04-09-07, 10:00 PM	You could probably start with all of those border regions mentioned in the Guide to the Inner Planes (6 each for most of the para and quasi-elemental planes, with some overlaps and exceptions), and expanding them into planes.
Harkle 04-11-07, 01:24 AM	If I wasn't so busy with my current campaign (who would have thought an Anime themed Gestalt campaign would be so much work) I would start namein the planes for your. I really enjoy planar stuff, especially a particular area I call "Planar Geometry", basicly studying the shape and structure of the planes. But I do think your method may be a little overkill, still interesting though, and I'm sure you have room in that cosmology for the Elemental Plane of Beer.