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maddog0714 03-09-08, 01:22 PM	I'm running an adventure where the PC's are thrust in the year -31,000 DR and I'm trying to figue out what gods were around at that time... I know the selderine existed, but elves had not been created as of that time, but what about other gods? not just the Faerun gods, but what about the Norse gods, or pharonic gods? One last question, I see references to Abeir-Toril (Spelling?) what does Abier or Abier mean?
Tovec 03-09-08, 04:32 PM	I'm running an adventure where the PC's are thrust in the year -31,000 DR and I'm trying to figue out what gods were around at that time... I know the selderine existed, but elves had not been created as of that time, but what about other gods? not just the Faerun gods, but what about the Norse gods, or pharonic gods? One last question, I see references to Abeir-Toril (Spelling?) what does Abier or Abier mean? Simple answer? Whatever ones you want. Personally I'd make some cool new kick-ass ones. Maybe some Grim Reaper type or gods that would later define later, mortal, concepts. Shadow, light, knowledge, insanity, justice, who knows. -31 000 DR? Also, Abier and Abier are spelt the same in that last line.
ripvanwormer 03-09-08, 04:38 PM	One last question, I see references to Abeir-Toril (Spelling?) what does Abier or Abier mean? Abeir-Toril is an archaic phrase meaning "cradle of life." So "Abeir" either means "cradle" or "life." The world is called Toril for short. Toril was originally the name of TSR designer Jeff Grubb's homebrew campaign world (incidently, this was the original home of the Dragonlance gods). When TSR bought the Forgotten Realms, Ed Greenwood didn't have a name for the planet on which it was set. Jeff Grubb suggested they call it "Toril," and the name stuck. The added "Abeir-" to the beginning of the word so that it would be the first entry in the Cyclopedia of the Realms that came with the original "gray box" Forgotten Realms set. Much more recently, it's been revealed that Abeir is actually another world that was separated from Toril long ago, and has only come back into contact with it since the Spellplague in the Year of Blue Fire. There's more in these articles: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/drfe/20080130a http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/drfe/20080227a Whatever Abeir was, it was apparently a land of surreal landscapes, including a land of dragonborn called Tymanther and a land of air genasi called Akanûl, which are both now part of Toril.
Yaeri 03-12-08, 05:56 PM	Well, the gods of the creator races would be around. As would be the gods that have been there since the world's creation. (Chauntea, Selune, Shar) My guess is those last three had different names by then. Perhaps some weird Saurian names, since only the creator races were around then to name them. So I would look into Serpent Kingdoms (if you have it), for deities of the scalykind. Draconomicon for dragon deities. Though dragons may at that moment have had only one deity. I vaguely remember something about the batrachi being at war with another race, and this other race making a deal with Gargauroth (?) the father of all dragons. He wiped out the batrachi (tearfall) in exchange for letting his progeny live on Faerun. Though this might have all been a myth. For fey, giant, batrachi and Avian deities you'll have to check faiths and pantheons, this forum, and make the rest of them up yourself. The only deities I specifically remember of those races are Sseth or Seth for the Sarrukh and Annam + Othea for the giants. Check Grand history of the Realms if you own it.
Thanael 03-13-08, 04:25 AM	Creator races, right. Ramenos also comes to mind.
Naderion 03-13-08, 07:15 AM	The deities of the elves, orcs, and Mulhorand are most probably not among the deities worshiped at that time, because these races didn't live on Toril at that time. I'd guess Jergal would be around, as he's said to be the god of death since ancient times.
The Ubbergeek 03-13-08, 05:15 PM	The FR forums version of this topic expend more on the subject.