Gods of Fire! [Archive] - Wizards Community

Gods of Fire! [Archive] - Wizards Community

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DarkflameX
04-29-07, 06:11 PM are there any fire deities?
if so post a name and where i can read more about them please
DarkflameX
04-29-07, 08:02 PM anyone?
Return of the Flumph
04-29-07, 08:47 PM The only one with that domain listed in the PHB is Obad Hai. I'm sure there are numerous others from supplemantary sourcebooks, though.
The Ubbergeek
04-29-07, 08:53 PM Kossuth, the elemental god of fire in Forgotten Realms...
Shemeska the Marauder
04-29-07, 09:58 PM Kossuth = Plane of Elemental Fire personified. He's not FR exclusive.

May or may not also be true deities on top of their archomental or archfiend status, but will grant spells to worshippers:
Zaman-Rul - good archomental of fire
Imix - evil archomental of fire
Alzrius - the "Lord of Abyssal Flame"
Mephistopheles - Lord of the 8th of Baator
Fierna/Belial - Lords of the 4th of Baator
Anubis.c.k
04-30-07, 05:53 AM theres sirrion from dragonlance
DwarfPcfan
04-30-07, 11:03 AM Out of the Norse Pantheon i can name a few:
Loki: as a god of mischief, fire and trickery
Surtur:God of fire giants and a true fire god

Also not that many gods of craft have fire as a portfolio:
Hephaistos
Tsavitri (Hindou god of invention)

Just a few for now...
The Ubbergeek
04-30-07, 11:49 AM Agni, the Holy Fire god in the vedic/Hinduist tradition

I have as an idea once to make a pantheon inspired by the Candomblé and other african-inspîred religions - there is a Loa of fire, can't remember the name

Eberron have a religion called the Silver Flamme - it's not unlike AGni and the Zoroastran believes, an holy fire
TimelordSimone
04-30-07, 12:01 PM Hestia
Goddess of the hearth.

She's your benevolent, protecting fire god type thing.
Luis_Dragunov
04-30-07, 12:39 PM [Insert any number of vulcano gods here]

Also:
Standard/Greyhawk Pantheon
Obad-Hai - but, then again, this guy has every single elemental domain under his belt.

Olympian Pantheon
Hephaestus - He's the forge god.

Pharaonic Pantheon
Apep - a huge, evil serpent demigod

((I'm starting to think Fire isn't very popular))

Asgardian Pantheon
Odur - think Apollo. Basically a guy in a chariot dragging the sun behind.
Surtur - evil fire giant god

And these are basically it.
Tobias Talco'un
04-30-07, 10:53 PM There is also a Greyhawk god of fire, torture and poison who's favored weapon is a whip and a longsword, but I don't know his name. I saw him in the most recent edition of Maure Castle from Dungeon Mag.
Mattarias
05-01-07, 12:15 AM My character, when he reaches level 20. :D

.. possibly before that...

*ahem* seriously, though, how about hades? from the greek pantheon? I'd assume he as fire in his portfolio.

... is it just me, or does everybody see fire as destructive..? .. I so want to yell "OBJECTION!" right now..
WarDragon
05-01-07, 01:03 AM Don't forget Garyx, of the Draconic pantheon. Firelord, All Destroyer, Cleanser of Worlds, god of fire, destruction, and renewal.
The Ubbergeek
05-01-07, 01:12 AM Fire IS destructive, its a part of fire's way. But destruction is not always bad...

Shiva may have fire domain - it's a part of the mysticism, the terribel ascete of destruction.
Darth Syntax
05-01-07, 02:48 PM *ahem* seriously, though, how about hades? from the greek pantheon? I'd assume he as fire in his portfolio.

... is it just me, or does everybody see fire as destructive..? .. I so want to yell "OBJECTION!" right now..

I can't really see Hades as having fire associated with him. Wealth, greed, law, prophesy, and death all make sense, but not fire.

--

As to fire being destructive, while this is true, fire is also a transformative 'element'. Heat, with which fire is intimately associated, is the vehicle for the transformation of clay into ceramic, it allows for the working of metals, the creation of glass, the baking of bread, and all manner of other things. Gods of fire need not be destroyers, they could just as well be creators.
ripvanwormer
05-01-07, 04:14 PM There is also a Greyhawk god of fire, torture and poison who's favored weapon is a whip and a longsword, but I don't know his name. I saw him in the most recent edition of Maure Castle from Dungeon Mag.

That would be Pyremius. He's also described in Complete Divine, and the Living Greyhawk Gazetteer, and at http://www.wizards.com/rpga/downloads/LG_Deities.zip

Complete Divine also mentions Kaelthiere, the NE god of efreet, azer, and salamanders. That book gives the domains and favored weapon, but there's no description of the deity anywhere - Kaelthiere is mostly just a name.
Mattarias
05-01-07, 10:09 PM As to fire being destructive, while this is true, fire is also a transformative 'element'. Heat, with which fire is intimately associated, is the vehicle for the transformation of clay into ceramic, it allows for the working of metals, the creation of glass, the baking of bread, and all manner of other things. Gods of fire need not be destroyers, they could just as well be creators.

prescisely! There's a reason Prometheus was punished- he gave mortals the power of creation and preservation, something that was, until then, a godly ability. Personally, i find it sad that people tend only to assosciate fire with blowing stuff up. have you ever seen glass being formed and molded? it's ART.

Darth Syntax, you get a :cookie:
Darth Syntax
05-02-07, 12:36 AM Thank you sir. *goes and gets a glass of milk*

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Speaking of Prometheus, he would make an excellent choice for a fire deity, as well as a god of knowledge, civilization, and tragedy. I've always liked him as a character.
ArcTan
05-02-07, 01:57 AM I can't really see Hades as having fire associated with him. Wealth, greed, law, prophesy, and death all make sense, but not fire.

Yeah, associating Hell with burning is really a Judeo-Christian thing, taken from Jesus' parables about Gehenna (not the same as the Outer Plane in D&D).

Interestingly, both Loki and Heimdall in Norse myth were quite well-known for being fire deities, Loki especially -- Loki and Heimdall were mortal enemies, and Heimdall prophesied to have the honor of slaying Loki (and being slain by him) at Ragnarok. Loki was said to represent the chaotic, destructive aspect of fire and Heimdall fire's helpful, beneficent aspect as a bringer of light. However, neither of these deities' representations in D&DG seems to have the Fire domain, which seems off to me.
ArcTan
05-02-07, 01:58 AM Eberron, by the way, only has one core deity with the Fire domain -- Onatar, God of the Forge, basically a version of Wayland or Hephaestos.
The Ubbergeek
05-02-07, 11:07 AM From the traditionals believes of the Yoruba and the derivative afro-american religions, there is;

Shango (Shangó, Xango, Changó, Chango, Nago Shango) - warrior god of thunder, fire, sky father

Agayu - Father of Shango he is also said to be shango's brother in other stories, Agayu is said to be the orisha of volcanoes and the desert.

Ogoun (Ogúm, Ogum, Ogou) - deity of iron, war, labour, and technology (e.g. railroads) ((the forge aspect))
Mattarias
05-02-07, 11:00 PM Yeah, associating Hell with burning is really a Judeo-Christian thing, taken from Jesus' parables about Gehenna (not the same as the Outer Plane in D&D).

Interestingly, both Loki and Heimdall in Norse myth were quite well-known for being fire deities, Loki especially -- Loki and Heimdall were mortal enemies, and Heimdall prophesied to have the honor of slaying Loki (and being slain by him) at Ragnarok. Loki was said to represent the chaotic, destructive aspect of fire and Heimdall fire's helpful, beneficent aspect as a bringer of light. However, neither of these deities' representations in D&DG seems to have the Fire domain, which seems off to me.

^^; Well, that's what I get for watching bad disney movies and reading bad translations of the Aneid. Thank you for correcting me.

And I was just about to suggest Heimdall. It really does suprise me that he and Loki bhave no connection to fire. Sad, really.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
DarkflameX 04-29-07, 06:11 PM	are there any fire deities? if so post a name and where i can read more about them please
DarkflameX 04-29-07, 08:02 PM	anyone?
Return of the Flumph 04-29-07, 08:47 PM	The only one with that domain listed in the PHB is Obad Hai. I'm sure there are numerous others from supplemantary sourcebooks, though.
The Ubbergeek 04-29-07, 08:53 PM	Kossuth, the elemental god of fire in Forgotten Realms...
Shemeska the Marauder 04-29-07, 09:58 PM	Kossuth = Plane of Elemental Fire personified. He's not FR exclusive. May or may not also be true deities on top of their archomental or archfiend status, but will grant spells to worshippers: Zaman-Rul - good archomental of fire Imix - evil archomental of fire Alzrius - the "Lord of Abyssal Flame" Mephistopheles - Lord of the 8th of Baator Fierna/Belial - Lords of the 4th of Baator
Anubis.c.k 04-30-07, 05:53 AM	theres sirrion from dragonlance
DwarfPcfan 04-30-07, 11:03 AM	Out of the Norse Pantheon i can name a few: Loki: as a god of mischief, fire and trickery Surtur:God of fire giants and a true fire god Also not that many gods of craft have fire as a portfolio: Hephaistos Tsavitri (Hindou god of invention) Just a few for now...
The Ubbergeek 04-30-07, 11:49 AM	Agni, the Holy Fire god in the vedic/Hinduist tradition I have as an idea once to make a pantheon inspired by the Candomblé and other african-inspîred religions - there is a Loa of fire, can't remember the name Eberron have a religion called the Silver Flamme - it's not unlike AGni and the Zoroastran believes, an holy fire
TimelordSimone 04-30-07, 12:01 PM	Hestia Goddess of the hearth. She's your benevolent, protecting fire god type thing.
Luis_Dragunov 04-30-07, 12:39 PM	[Insert any number of vulcano gods here] Also: Standard/Greyhawk Pantheon Obad-Hai - but, then again, this guy has every single elemental domain under his belt. Olympian Pantheon Hephaestus - He's the forge god. Pharaonic Pantheon Apep - a huge, evil serpent demigod ((I'm starting to think Fire isn't very popular)) Asgardian Pantheon Odur - think Apollo. Basically a guy in a chariot dragging the sun behind. Surtur - evil fire giant god And these are basically it.
Tobias Talco'un 04-30-07, 10:53 PM	There is also a Greyhawk god of fire, torture and poison who's favored weapon is a whip and a longsword, but I don't know his name. I saw him in the most recent edition of Maure Castle from Dungeon Mag.
Mattarias 05-01-07, 12:15 AM	My character, when he reaches level 20. :D .. possibly before that... ahem seriously, though, how about hades? from the greek pantheon? I'd assume he as fire in his portfolio. ... is it just me, or does everybody see fire as destructive..? .. I so want to yell "OBJECTION!" right now..
WarDragon 05-01-07, 01:03 AM	Don't forget Garyx, of the Draconic pantheon. Firelord, All Destroyer, Cleanser of Worlds, god of fire, destruction, and renewal.
The Ubbergeek 05-01-07, 01:12 AM	Fire IS destructive, its a part of fire's way. But destruction is not always bad... Shiva may have fire domain - it's a part of the mysticism, the terribel ascete of destruction.
Darth Syntax 05-01-07, 02:48 PM	ahem seriously, though, how about hades? from the greek pantheon? I'd assume he as fire in his portfolio. ... is it just me, or does everybody see fire as destructive..? .. I so want to yell "OBJECTION!" right now.. I can't really see Hades as having fire associated with him. Wealth, greed, law, prophesy, and death all make sense, but not fire. -- As to fire being destructive, while this is true, fire is also a transformative 'element'. Heat, with which fire is intimately associated, is the vehicle for the transformation of clay into ceramic, it allows for the working of metals, the creation of glass, the baking of bread, and all manner of other things. Gods of fire need not be destroyers, they could just as well be creators.
ripvanwormer 05-01-07, 04:14 PM	There is also a Greyhawk god of fire, torture and poison who's favored weapon is a whip and a longsword, but I don't know his name. I saw him in the most recent edition of Maure Castle from Dungeon Mag. That would be Pyremius. He's also described in Complete Divine, and the Living Greyhawk Gazetteer, and at http://www.wizards.com/rpga/downloads/LG_Deities.zip Complete Divine also mentions Kaelthiere, the NE god of efreet, azer, and salamanders. That book gives the domains and favored weapon, but there's no description of the deity anywhere - Kaelthiere is mostly just a name.
Mattarias 05-01-07, 10:09 PM	As to fire being destructive, while this is true, fire is also a transformative 'element'. Heat, with which fire is intimately associated, is the vehicle for the transformation of clay into ceramic, it allows for the working of metals, the creation of glass, the baking of bread, and all manner of other things. Gods of fire need not be destroyers, they could just as well be creators. prescisely! There's a reason Prometheus was punished- he gave mortals the power of creation and preservation, something that was, until then, a godly ability. Personally, i find it sad that people tend only to assosciate fire with blowing stuff up. have you ever seen glass being formed and molded? it's ART. Darth Syntax, you get a :cookie:
Darth Syntax 05-02-07, 12:36 AM	Thank you sir. goes and gets a glass of milk -- Speaking of Prometheus, he would make an excellent choice for a fire deity, as well as a god of knowledge, civilization, and tragedy. I've always liked him as a character.
ArcTan 05-02-07, 01:57 AM	I can't really see Hades as having fire associated with him. Wealth, greed, law, prophesy, and death all make sense, but not fire. Yeah, associating Hell with burning is really a Judeo-Christian thing, taken from Jesus' parables about Gehenna (not the same as the Outer Plane in D&D). Interestingly, both Loki and Heimdall in Norse myth were quite well-known for being fire deities, Loki especially -- Loki and Heimdall were mortal enemies, and Heimdall prophesied to have the honor of slaying Loki (and being slain by him) at Ragnarok. Loki was said to represent the chaotic, destructive aspect of fire and Heimdall fire's helpful, beneficent aspect as a bringer of light. However, neither of these deities' representations in D&DG seems to have the Fire domain, which seems off to me.
ArcTan 05-02-07, 01:58 AM	Eberron, by the way, only has one core deity with the Fire domain -- Onatar, God of the Forge, basically a version of Wayland or Hephaestos.
The Ubbergeek 05-02-07, 11:07 AM	From the traditionals believes of the Yoruba and the derivative afro-american religions, there is; Shango (Shangó, Xango, Changó, Chango, Nago Shango) - warrior god of thunder, fire, sky father Agayu - Father of Shango he is also said to be shango's brother in other stories, Agayu is said to be the orisha of volcanoes and the desert. Ogoun (Ogúm, Ogum, Ogou) - deity of iron, war, labour, and technology (e.g. railroads) ((the forge aspect))
Mattarias 05-02-07, 11:00 PM	Yeah, associating Hell with burning is really a Judeo-Christian thing, taken from Jesus' parables about Gehenna (not the same as the Outer Plane in D&D). Interestingly, both Loki and Heimdall in Norse myth were quite well-known for being fire deities, Loki especially -- Loki and Heimdall were mortal enemies, and Heimdall prophesied to have the honor of slaying Loki (and being slain by him) at Ragnarok. Loki was said to represent the chaotic, destructive aspect of fire and Heimdall fire's helpful, beneficent aspect as a bringer of light. However, neither of these deities' representations in D&DG seems to have the Fire domain, which seems off to me. ^^; Well, that's what I get for watching bad disney movies and reading bad translations of the Aneid. Thank you for correcting me. And I was just about to suggest Heimdall. It really does suprise me that he and Loki bhave no connection to fire. Sad, really.