Gods of necromancy. [Archive] - Wizards Community

Gods of necromancy. [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Devil Gnasher
09-14-07, 12:18 AM "Necro" is ancient Greek for death or corpse while "mantia" is ancient Greek for divination. All together it's called necromantia. The Anglicanized spelling of this word is necromancy. Therefore classical necromancy would have dealt strictly with speaking to dead or mystical attempts at forensic pathology. From that humble origin fictional necromancy could be extended to magical healing, undead creation/destruction, genetic manipulation, biorganic shields and causing harm to the living. My goal is to start a list of core and non-core deities whom, by my difinition serve as suitable patrons of the necromantic arts whether Good, Neutral or Evil. If anyone has any more submissions please post them in this thread.

Good
1. Pelor
2. Mordain
3. Osiris
Neutral
1. Wee Jas
2. Kelemvor
3. Jergul
4. Urdlen
5. Anubis
Evil
1. Vecna
2. Nerull
3. Velsharoon
4. the Keeper
5. Hel
6. Falazure

God-like beings
Good

Neutral

Evil
1. Orcus
MrSpaceBear
09-14-07, 02:01 AM Kelemvor, Judge of the Damed, LN Death god of Faerun
Jergul, the Uncareing, N Death god of faerun

Also I think Hades is in a D&D book of gods.
Lord Mortanius
09-14-07, 04:21 AM Velsharoon; NE Faerunian demipower; liches, necromancy, necromancers, undeath; Gehenna/Mungoth/Death's Embrace.
Orcus; CE Abyssal Prince/Lesser Power; undeath, hatred, necromancy; Abyss/113th.

Kelemvor is very unsuitable.
zook1shoe666
09-14-07, 12:38 PM check out the Libris Mortis, they have a BUNCH of undead deities from Good, Neutral and Evil.
Fabius Maximus
09-14-07, 12:48 PM Velsharoon; NE Faerunian demipower; liches, necromancy, necromancers, undeath; Gehenna/Mungoth/Death's Embrace.
Orcus; CE Abyssal Prince/Lesser Power; undeath, hatred, necromancy; Abyss/113th.

Kelemvor is very unsuitable.
Well, he wanted gods of every alignment that fit. Kelemvor is one. There are necromancy spells for destroying undead.

I'd like to add Urdlen, the FR halfling god of death. He's LN, IIRC.
And there is the Keeper (NE) from Eberron, who likes to keep the souls from going to the endless boredom of the plane of Dolurrh.
The_Shaman
09-24-07, 08:54 AM Actually, Kelemvor's followers include some necromancers. Speaking to the dead is perfectly okay with him. However, animating them can get you in huge trouble with the lord of the crystal tower. BTW, I think Jergal is LN as well.

What else... I think Sehanine is the elven goddess of the dead, so technically necromancy would be under her purview. AFAIK she's the one that deals with the Baelnorn, too.
Naderion
09-24-07, 10:04 AM In 2nd Ed. all healing spells were of the necromancy school which makes sense, since its about the handling of life-force, not about death.
Fabius Maximus
09-24-07, 10:06 AM Jergal is LE, I believe.
zook1shoe666
09-24-07, 10:11 AM Jergal is LE, I believe.

he is LN in the books..... but i would say has LE tendencies
DwarfPcfan
09-24-07, 10:18 AM Here's a few more that bear mentionning:
-Osiris egyptian, god of the dead, the offering fields and jugement
-Anubis, egyptian god of mummification, death and lore
-Hel, Norse goddess of the underworld
General_Ridley
09-24-07, 12:16 PM Falazure, Dragon God of death and undeath (LE, IIRC)
Andyr
09-25-07, 10:59 AM he is LN in the books..... but i would say has LE tendencies

During the Netherese Empire he was LE, but he is now LN. I think perhaps his alignment shifted when he gave his power to the Dead Three.
MrSpaceBear
09-26-07, 11:40 PM Jergal actualy serves Kelemvor now as the notery and scribe of the dead, and since Kelemvor is a young god, Jergal advises him. I think thats why Jergals alighnment changed, he just settled down for retirement.
Andyr
09-27-07, 01:19 PM Jergal also served Cyric and Myrkul during their times as Lord of the Dead, and as Myrkul reigned for a (comparatively) long time I imagine he got fairly good at it (i.e. it would be as much service as advice).
hellgrammite00
12-02-07, 11:42 AM How does Jergal feel about raising the dead? I know Kelemvor hates it, and only allows minimal control of the undead (if its serving the greater good). But from what I read Jergal is a bit more lacked when it comes to raising the dead.

What are you guys opinions. I am starting a new Cleric character, and want some reanimate dead abilites while not being or worshiping evil (the DM doesnt not want evil characters this time). Jergal seems neutral with some evil tendencies so I may be able to follow him.

IF that doesnt work, do you guys know any good/neutral guys that allow for raising the dead. (has to be somebody)
Zousha_Omenohu
12-03-07, 02:21 AM Well, he wanted gods of every alignment that fit. Kelemvor is one. There are necromancy spells for destroying undead.

I'd like to add Urdlen, the FR halfling god of death. He's LN, IIRC.
And there is the Keeper (NE) from Eberron, who likes to keep the souls from going to the endless boredom of the plane of Dolurrh.

Urdlen? That's the CE gnome god of greed, bloodlust, evil, hatred, uncontrolled impulse and spriggans (The one who looks like a giant mole).

I think you're reffering to Urogalan, who is indeed LN.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Devil Gnasher 09-14-07, 12:18 AM	"Necro" is ancient Greek for death or corpse while "mantia" is ancient Greek for divination. All together it's called necromantia. The Anglicanized spelling of this word is necromancy. Therefore classical necromancy would have dealt strictly with speaking to dead or mystical attempts at forensic pathology. From that humble origin fictional necromancy could be extended to magical healing, undead creation/destruction, genetic manipulation, biorganic shields and causing harm to the living. My goal is to start a list of core and non-core deities whom, by my difinition serve as suitable patrons of the necromantic arts whether Good, Neutral or Evil. If anyone has any more submissions please post them in this thread. Good 1. Pelor 2. Mordain 3. Osiris Neutral 1. Wee Jas 2. Kelemvor 3. Jergul 4. Urdlen 5. Anubis Evil 1. Vecna 2. Nerull 3. Velsharoon 4. the Keeper 5. Hel 6. Falazure God-like beings Good Neutral Evil 1. Orcus
MrSpaceBear 09-14-07, 02:01 AM	Kelemvor, Judge of the Damed, LN Death god of Faerun Jergul, the Uncareing, N Death god of faerun Also I think Hades is in a D&D book of gods.
Lord Mortanius 09-14-07, 04:21 AM	Velsharoon; NE Faerunian demipower; liches, necromancy, necromancers, undeath; Gehenna/Mungoth/Death's Embrace. Orcus; CE Abyssal Prince/Lesser Power; undeath, hatred, necromancy; Abyss/113th. Kelemvor is very unsuitable.
zook1shoe666 09-14-07, 12:38 PM	check out the Libris Mortis, they have a BUNCH of undead deities from Good, Neutral and Evil.
Fabius Maximus 09-14-07, 12:48 PM	Velsharoon; NE Faerunian demipower; liches, necromancy, necromancers, undeath; Gehenna/Mungoth/Death's Embrace. Orcus; CE Abyssal Prince/Lesser Power; undeath, hatred, necromancy; Abyss/113th. Kelemvor is very unsuitable. Well, he wanted gods of every alignment that fit. Kelemvor is one. There are necromancy spells for destroying undead. I'd like to add Urdlen, the FR halfling god of death. He's LN, IIRC. And there is the Keeper (NE) from Eberron, who likes to keep the souls from going to the endless boredom of the plane of Dolurrh.
The_Shaman 09-24-07, 08:54 AM	Actually, Kelemvor's followers include some necromancers. Speaking to the dead is perfectly okay with him. However, animating them can get you in huge trouble with the lord of the crystal tower. BTW, I think Jergal is LN as well. What else... I think Sehanine is the elven goddess of the dead, so technically necromancy would be under her purview. AFAIK she's the one that deals with the Baelnorn, too.
Naderion 09-24-07, 10:04 AM	In 2nd Ed. all healing spells were of the necromancy school which makes sense, since its about the handling of life-force, not about death.
Fabius Maximus 09-24-07, 10:06 AM	Jergal is LE, I believe.
zook1shoe666 09-24-07, 10:11 AM	Jergal is LE, I believe. he is LN in the books..... but i would say has LE tendencies
DwarfPcfan 09-24-07, 10:18 AM	Here's a few more that bear mentionning: -Osiris egyptian, god of the dead, the offering fields and jugement -Anubis, egyptian god of mummification, death and lore -Hel, Norse goddess of the underworld
General_Ridley 09-24-07, 12:16 PM	Falazure, Dragon God of death and undeath (LE, IIRC)
Andyr 09-25-07, 10:59 AM	he is LN in the books..... but i would say has LE tendencies During the Netherese Empire he was LE, but he is now LN. I think perhaps his alignment shifted when he gave his power to the Dead Three.
MrSpaceBear 09-26-07, 11:40 PM	Jergal actualy serves Kelemvor now as the notery and scribe of the dead, and since Kelemvor is a young god, Jergal advises him. I think thats why Jergals alighnment changed, he just settled down for retirement.
Andyr 09-27-07, 01:19 PM	Jergal also served Cyric and Myrkul during their times as Lord of the Dead, and as Myrkul reigned for a (comparatively) long time I imagine he got fairly good at it (i.e. it would be as much service as advice).
hellgrammite00 12-02-07, 11:42 AM	How does Jergal feel about raising the dead? I know Kelemvor hates it, and only allows minimal control of the undead (if its serving the greater good). But from what I read Jergal is a bit more lacked when it comes to raising the dead. What are you guys opinions. I am starting a new Cleric character, and want some reanimate dead abilites while not being or worshiping evil (the DM doesnt not want evil characters this time). Jergal seems neutral with some evil tendencies so I may be able to follow him. IF that doesnt work, do you guys know any good/neutral guys that allow for raising the dead. (has to be somebody)
Zousha_Omenohu 12-03-07, 02:21 AM	Well, he wanted gods of every alignment that fit. Kelemvor is one. There are necromancy spells for destroying undead. I'd like to add Urdlen, the FR halfling god of death. He's LN, IIRC. And there is the Keeper (NE) from Eberron, who likes to keep the souls from going to the endless boredom of the plane of Dolurrh. Urdlen? That's the CE gnome god of greed, bloodlust, evil, hatred, uncontrolled impulse and spriggans (The one who looks like a giant mole). I think you're reffering to Urogalan, who is indeed LN.