How could you dismiss or banish a native outsider [Archive] - Wizards Community

How could you dismiss or banish a native outsider [Archive] - Wizards Community

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HawkTheOne-Handed
11-30-07, 06:57 PM I've read of worlds (like the Scarred Lands) where native outsiders are banishable to their alignment planes regardless of their type. How would this work in normal worlds? Would new magic need to be created (i.e. Banish Outsider) or are the rules already there and I just don't know about them?
Kain_Darkwind
11-30-07, 07:14 PM I've read of worlds (like the Scarred Lands) where native outsiders are banishable to their alignment planes regardless of their type. How would this work in normal worlds? Would new magic need to be created (i.e. Banish Outsider) or are the rules already there and I just don't know about them?

I've never read that in Scarred Lands. However, dismissal and banishment only work on extraplanar creatures. A creature doesn't have the extraplanar subtype on its homeplane, so native outsiders aren't going anywhere from those spells.

The 3.0 version of the spells worked the same, but there wasn't a mechanical definition of Extraplanar or Native, so it is possible that you could banish a native outsider.
HawkTheOne-Handed
11-30-07, 07:33 PM Ok. Thanks. Oh well. No way to get rid of our current cheesy wizard. He could probably found his way back anyway. :)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
HawkTheOne-Handed 11-30-07, 06:57 PM	I've read of worlds (like the Scarred Lands) where native outsiders are banishable to their alignment planes regardless of their type. How would this work in normal worlds? Would new magic need to be created (i.e. Banish Outsider) or are the rules already there and I just don't know about them?
Kain_Darkwind 11-30-07, 07:14 PM	I've read of worlds (like the Scarred Lands) where native outsiders are banishable to their alignment planes regardless of their type. How would this work in normal worlds? Would new magic need to be created (i.e. Banish Outsider) or are the rules already there and I just don't know about them? I've never read that in Scarred Lands. However, dismissal and banishment only work on extraplanar creatures. A creature doesn't have the extraplanar subtype on its homeplane, so native outsiders aren't going anywhere from those spells. The 3.0 version of the spells worked the same, but there wasn't a mechanical definition of Extraplanar or Native, so it is possible that you could banish a native outsider.
HawkTheOne-Handed 11-30-07, 07:33 PM	Ok. Thanks. Oh well. No way to get rid of our current cheesy wizard. He could probably found his way back anyway. :)