I need a good aligned God that is also extremely generous. [Archive] - Wizards Community

I need a good aligned God that is also extremely generous. [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Hythocratus
05-18-07, 02:29 AM Can someone recommend one for me? It's for a home-grown scenario. Thanks in advance.
AffableDoomwalker
05-18-07, 03:26 AM Do you want us to make one, or recommend one?

For the latter, I'd recommend Pelor (Greyhawk), or Illmater (Forgotten Realms).
Millennium
05-18-07, 10:16 AM Do you want us to make one, or recommend one?

For the latter, I'd recommend Pelor (Greyhawk), or Illmater (Forgotten Realms).
These were the ones I was going to recommend. Mishakal from the Dragonlance setting also works.

That said, could you give us some more detail? There may be a better match for what you want.
Hythocratus
05-18-07, 01:51 PM What i need is a temple of a Deity that is Benevolent and Generous so his followers will be too, They have to have a kind of "take a penny, leave a penny" poorbox in all their temples. People leave stuff there that they don't need anymore and people who enter the temple and see something they need, just take it without any guilt or consequences. People would leave stuff here all the time, not just food and money, but equipment as well. Say an old fighter decides to hang up his sword and armor and become a monk like some samurai used to do. He leaves his weapon, sheild, armor and
helm at the altar. Some fighter comes in the temple who just lost all his equipment in a raging flood and "voila!". Dig?
Millennium
05-18-07, 02:41 PM Hmm. I don't know of any core deities who are said to do anything like that, but I like the concept.

Pelor could probably be adapted to this concept, as could Mishakal, but Ilmater doesn't really seem like a good match anymore. He's focused more specifically on relief from suffering, and it's a bit of a stretch to apply your "recycle bin" idea to that. Pelor and Mishakal are more generally nurturing, however, and something like this might appeal more to them. I'm getting the feeling that Mishakal might be the closest match.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mishakal
Theskippingman
05-18-07, 03:08 PM Lathandar
Hythocratus
05-19-07, 01:46 AM Here's the adventure i had in mind in case anyone wants to use it, but in order to make it work, the aforementioned temple must exist.:
A well known and extremely powerful hero is hanging up his sword and retiring to private life after years of adventure and questing that has made his name a byword in every inn, tavern and guildhouse in the land. He/She was such a famed individual that various degrees of honor, sainthood, memorials etc. had been proposed. A truly herculean hero. He/She had fought many monsters, cleared many a dungeon and lost many a companion to death in caverns, dungeons, abandoned temples and lairs filled with evil of the worst description throughout his/her career. During his/her adventures he had amassed much wealth, treasure, fame and above all magic items. Upon his/her retirement he/she wanted to give back to the temple of the god who had seen him/her sucessfully through so many trials and tribulations, so as he/she travels back across the continent toward his own humble hometown, he/she leaves all of the treasure he/she has ammassed, piece by piece at every temple of "blank" on the continent as gifts to aid the various temples. Of course, the temples have a policy that anything left can be taken without fear of recompense and they must remain true to their calling. Consequently; everyone from fishermen, washer-women, witches, midwives, apothecaries, adventurers, bandits, thieves, and even children could walk into any given temple, search through the local pile of cast off crap, and walk out of the temple with a magic item more powerful than they've ever dreamed of. Your local Lord of your local Realm has realized that perhaps this wasn't the greatest idea in the world and really doesn't want to see bad things start to happen like some kid permanently wishing his little brother away, so he hires you to go and find the items one by one, and return them to someone or someplace a bit more safe and responsible. Of course, some of the items have already walked off with the wrong people to the worst places that they possibly could and created complete havoc. Your local Lord has provided you with a complete list of items. The rest, is up to you and your stalwart band of fools. The adventure begins..........
Millennium
05-21-07, 01:12 PM OK; scrap what I said before. Celestian from Greyhawk sounds like a good match here.
Theskippingman
05-21-07, 01:23 PM OK; scrap what I said before. Celestian from Greyhawk sounds like a good match here.

LOL! Celestian isn't even a good-aligned diety (he's neutral)! His portfolio is astronomy and wanderers.

He's named "Celestian" because of the relationship with the sky, not celestials. Sigh...are we clear?

Theskippingman
Hythocratus
05-21-07, 05:55 PM LOL! Celestian isn't even a good-aligned diety (he's neutral)! His portfolio is astronomy and wanderers.

He's named "Celestian" because of the relationship with the sky, not celestials. Sigh...are we clear?

Theskippingman

O.K., so he's not exactly good, but is he generous? Just out of curiosity, could one of you guys give me a quick run down on him? I'm not very familiar with him, but i really dig the idea of a retro deity.
Millennium
05-21-07, 10:33 PM LOL! Celestian isn't even a good-aligned diety (he's neutral)!
Are you sure? I thought he was NG.
His portfolio is astronomy and wanderers.
I was thinking more along the lines of the travelling aspects. It fits well with the OP's tale of a warrior who wanders around to his god's shrines to distribute his old gear.
primemover003
05-24-07, 11:32 AM Well the god in question would have to be damn near an Anarchist! Take anything you find, no questions asked. Definitely a more chaotic deity, and I wouldn't neccessarily say a good one. Generosity as a virtue isn't this random nor does it lack forethought.

I would think Norebo might be a good choice?
ArcTan
05-24-07, 06:30 PM If you're making up this story in a made-up setting, why can't you just make up the deity? Why do you *have* to use a god that was written up in an official campaign setting somewhere?
Hythocratus
05-25-07, 02:20 AM If you're making up this story in a made-up setting, why can't you just make up the deity? Why do you *have* to use a god that was written up in an official campaign setting somewhere?

I thought of that, but i'm not exactly what you might call a "stat guru". Other people crunch numbers far better than I. But thanks to everyone for their help. I guess it wasn't the best idea i ever came up with. But i like easter egg hunts and i thought a scenario like that might be fun.
ArcTan
05-25-07, 09:35 AM I thought of that, but i'm not exactly what you might call a "stat guru". Other people crunch numbers far better than I.

How many stats does a god actually need? Unless your campaign involves actually going to the Outer Planes to meet him in person, all you actually need is his alignment, his rank, a description of his portfolio, and a list of domains. And you only even *really* need that if you want to create the possibility of his having PC Clerics. Otherwise you just stat the NPC Cleric separately based on what you think makes sense.

Sheesh, this obsession with having stats for everything.

In your case, the only stat block you actually need is:

The Giving God
CG Intermediate Deity
Portfolio: Generosity, gift-giving, serendipitous discovery
Domains: Chaos, Feast, Good, Life, Luck.

There. And you can change any of these that you want to. Don't want to use the Feast and Life domains from Eberron? Use Gluttony and Renewal. Or Healing and Wealth. Or anything you want. Make him NG or TN instead of CG.

It doesn't matter, because any answer you pick is the right answer.
The Ubbergeek
05-25-07, 12:01 PM Not Good but quite a selfless and patient god, there is Meriadar - Lawful Neutral god of Patience, meditation, tolerance, arts and crafts - patron of the Mongremen and non-evil goblinoids of any type (and arguably non-evil orcs, kobolds).

Or Daoud, the Beggar-God of Greyhawk, a True Neutral baklunish god of humility, simplicity and all.
Orchomenos
05-26-07, 11:08 AM Lathandar

Not bad. Finding a new life to scrap stuff might fit. However, I hardly see a temple of Lathander, who promote youth and beautiful things, being overload with scrap stuff... :P

I think it better fits Ilmater. He's the kind of guy to offer his arm and reluctanctly accept a copper piece in return...
ElberethSilverleaf
05-26-07, 11:52 AM Wike the goddess "Fortuna".
She had many aspects:

Lady Fortuna Annonaria brought the luck of the harvest
Fortuna Belli fortune of war
Fortuna Primigenia directed the fortune of a firstborn child at the moment of birth
Fortuna Virilis attended a man's career
Fortuna Redux brought one safely home
Fortuna Respiciens fortune of the provider
Fortuna Muliebris the luck of a woman. Typical of Roman attitudes, the fortune of a woman in marriage, however, was Fortuna Virilis.
Fortuna Victrix brought victory in battle
Fortuna Augusta fortune of the emperor
Fortuna Balnearis fortune of the baths
Fortuna Conservatrix fortune of the Preserver
Fortuna Equestris fortune of the Knights
Fortuna Huiusque fortune of the present day
Fortuna Obsequens fortune of indulgence
Fortuna Privata fortune of the private individual
Fortuna Publica fortune of the people
Fortuna Romana fortune of Rome
Fortuna Virgo fortune of the virgin

The goddesses symbol is often the cornucopia...whats started out as a Greek religous belief was typically coopted and converted by the Romans to suit their society.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Hythocratus 05-18-07, 02:29 AM	Can someone recommend one for me? It's for a home-grown scenario. Thanks in advance.
AffableDoomwalker 05-18-07, 03:26 AM	Do you want us to make one, or recommend one? For the latter, I'd recommend Pelor (Greyhawk), or Illmater (Forgotten Realms).
Millennium 05-18-07, 10:16 AM	Do you want us to make one, or recommend one? For the latter, I'd recommend Pelor (Greyhawk), or Illmater (Forgotten Realms). These were the ones I was going to recommend. Mishakal from the Dragonlance setting also works. That said, could you give us some more detail? There may be a better match for what you want.
Hythocratus 05-18-07, 01:51 PM	What i need is a temple of a Deity that is Benevolent and Generous so his followers will be too, They have to have a kind of "take a penny, leave a penny" poorbox in all their temples. People leave stuff there that they don't need anymore and people who enter the temple and see something they need, just take it without any guilt or consequences. People would leave stuff here all the time, not just food and money, but equipment as well. Say an old fighter decides to hang up his sword and armor and become a monk like some samurai used to do. He leaves his weapon, sheild, armor and helm at the altar. Some fighter comes in the temple who just lost all his equipment in a raging flood and "voila!". Dig?
Millennium 05-18-07, 02:41 PM	Hmm. I don't know of any core deities who are said to do anything like that, but I like the concept. Pelor could probably be adapted to this concept, as could Mishakal, but Ilmater doesn't really seem like a good match anymore. He's focused more specifically on relief from suffering, and it's a bit of a stretch to apply your "recycle bin" idea to that. Pelor and Mishakal are more generally nurturing, however, and something like this might appeal more to them. I'm getting the feeling that Mishakal might be the closest match. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mishakal
Theskippingman 05-18-07, 03:08 PM	Lathandar
Hythocratus 05-19-07, 01:46 AM	Here's the adventure i had in mind in case anyone wants to use it, but in order to make it work, the aforementioned temple must exist.: A well known and extremely powerful hero is hanging up his sword and retiring to private life after years of adventure and questing that has made his name a byword in every inn, tavern and guildhouse in the land. He/She was such a famed individual that various degrees of honor, sainthood, memorials etc. had been proposed. A truly herculean hero. He/She had fought many monsters, cleared many a dungeon and lost many a companion to death in caverns, dungeons, abandoned temples and lairs filled with evil of the worst description throughout his/her career. During his/her adventures he had amassed much wealth, treasure, fame and above all magic items. Upon his/her retirement he/she wanted to give back to the temple of the god who had seen him/her sucessfully through so many trials and tribulations, so as he/she travels back across the continent toward his own humble hometown, he/she leaves all of the treasure he/she has ammassed, piece by piece at every temple of "blank" on the continent as gifts to aid the various temples. Of course, the temples have a policy that anything left can be taken without fear of recompense and they must remain true to their calling. Consequently; everyone from fishermen, washer-women, witches, midwives, apothecaries, adventurers, bandits, thieves, and even children could walk into any given temple, search through the local pile of cast off crap, and walk out of the temple with a magic item more powerful than they've ever dreamed of. Your local Lord of your local Realm has realized that perhaps this wasn't the greatest idea in the world and really doesn't want to see bad things start to happen like some kid permanently wishing his little brother away, so he hires you to go and find the items one by one, and return them to someone or someplace a bit more safe and responsible. Of course, some of the items have already walked off with the wrong people to the worst places that they possibly could and created complete havoc. Your local Lord has provided you with a complete list of items. The rest, is up to you and your stalwart band of fools. The adventure begins..........
Millennium 05-21-07, 01:12 PM	OK; scrap what I said before. Celestian from Greyhawk sounds like a good match here.
Theskippingman 05-21-07, 01:23 PM	OK; scrap what I said before. Celestian from Greyhawk sounds like a good match here. LOL! Celestian isn't even a good-aligned diety (he's neutral)! His portfolio is astronomy and wanderers. He's named "Celestian" because of the relationship with the sky, not celestials. Sigh...are we clear? Theskippingman
Hythocratus 05-21-07, 05:55 PM	LOL! Celestian isn't even a good-aligned diety (he's neutral)! His portfolio is astronomy and wanderers. He's named "Celestian" because of the relationship with the sky, not celestials. Sigh...are we clear? Theskippingman O.K., so he's not exactly good, but is he generous? Just out of curiosity, could one of you guys give me a quick run down on him? I'm not very familiar with him, but i really dig the idea of a retro deity.
Millennium 05-21-07, 10:33 PM	LOL! Celestian isn't even a good-aligned diety (he's neutral)! Are you sure? I thought he was NG. His portfolio is astronomy and wanderers. I was thinking more along the lines of the travelling aspects. It fits well with the OP's tale of a warrior who wanders around to his god's shrines to distribute his old gear.
primemover003 05-24-07, 11:32 AM	Well the god in question would have to be damn near an Anarchist! Take anything you find, no questions asked. Definitely a more chaotic deity, and I wouldn't neccessarily say a good one. Generosity as a virtue isn't this random nor does it lack forethought. I would think Norebo might be a good choice?
ArcTan 05-24-07, 06:30 PM	If you're making up this story in a made-up setting, why can't you just make up the deity? Why do you have to use a god that was written up in an official campaign setting somewhere?
Hythocratus 05-25-07, 02:20 AM	If you're making up this story in a made-up setting, why can't you just make up the deity? Why do you have to use a god that was written up in an official campaign setting somewhere? I thought of that, but i'm not exactly what you might call a "stat guru". Other people crunch numbers far better than I. But thanks to everyone for their help. I guess it wasn't the best idea i ever came up with. But i like easter egg hunts and i thought a scenario like that might be fun.
ArcTan 05-25-07, 09:35 AM	I thought of that, but i'm not exactly what you might call a "stat guru". Other people crunch numbers far better than I. How many stats does a god actually need? Unless your campaign involves actually going to the Outer Planes to meet him in person, all you actually need is his alignment, his rank, a description of his portfolio, and a list of domains. And you only even really need that if you want to create the possibility of his having PC Clerics. Otherwise you just stat the NPC Cleric separately based on what you think makes sense. Sheesh, this obsession with having stats for everything. In your case, the only stat block you actually need is: The Giving God CG Intermediate Deity Portfolio: Generosity, gift-giving, serendipitous discovery Domains: Chaos, Feast, Good, Life, Luck. There. And you can change any of these that you want to. Don't want to use the Feast and Life domains from Eberron? Use Gluttony and Renewal. Or Healing and Wealth. Or anything you want. Make him NG or TN instead of CG. It doesn't matter, because any answer you pick is the right answer.
The Ubbergeek 05-25-07, 12:01 PM	Not Good but quite a selfless and patient god, there is Meriadar - Lawful Neutral god of Patience, meditation, tolerance, arts and crafts - patron of the Mongremen and non-evil goblinoids of any type (and arguably non-evil orcs, kobolds). Or Daoud, the Beggar-God of Greyhawk, a True Neutral baklunish god of humility, simplicity and all.
Orchomenos 05-26-07, 11:08 AM	Lathandar Not bad. Finding a new life to scrap stuff might fit. However, I hardly see a temple of Lathander, who promote youth and beautiful things, being overload with scrap stuff... :P I think it better fits Ilmater. He's the kind of guy to offer his arm and reluctanctly accept a copper piece in return...
ElberethSilverleaf 05-26-07, 11:52 AM	Wike the goddess "Fortuna". She had many aspects: Lady Fortuna Annonaria brought the luck of the harvest Fortuna Belli fortune of war Fortuna Primigenia directed the fortune of a firstborn child at the moment of birth Fortuna Virilis attended a man's career Fortuna Redux brought one safely home Fortuna Respiciens fortune of the provider Fortuna Muliebris the luck of a woman. Typical of Roman attitudes, the fortune of a woman in marriage, however, was Fortuna Virilis. Fortuna Victrix brought victory in battle Fortuna Augusta fortune of the emperor Fortuna Balnearis fortune of the baths Fortuna Conservatrix fortune of the Preserver Fortuna Equestris fortune of the Knights Fortuna Huiusque fortune of the present day Fortuna Obsequens fortune of indulgence Fortuna Privata fortune of the private individual Fortuna Publica fortune of the people Fortuna Romana fortune of Rome Fortuna Virgo fortune of the virgin The goddesses symbol is often the cornucopia...whats started out as a Greek religous belief was typically coopted and converted by the Romans to suit their society.