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Lucifer the Bringer of Light [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
DMaster42
04-12-07, 12:07 AM I am on a mission to stat Lucifer after he was defeated by Asmodeus (I'm assuming that he survived and escaped somehow). He is now traveling the Material Plane trying to atone and rise to Celestia once more. Now, I'm going to stat him basically as a celestial, but really he hasn't achieved full powers of what he had when he was first a celestial (I'm using the back story that he is a fallen celestial). I'm using DiceFreaks rules, but I'm going to have to go a little off road because their Cosmic Entities template hasn't been done for Celestials. So I was thinking about making him with 40-50 outsider HD and 40-50 class levels (Paladin/Cleric most likely). I'm probably going to say that the Supreme Virtue went and changed him to make him like that since he was definitely different in Hell. Any suggestions or comments? Please don't just tell me it can't/shouldn't be done. That's not helpful. Constructive criticism is what I need. If anyone saw my thread on the DiceFreaks website, I didn't get to see it after I posted before the site had some problems (or at least I can't get to it), so I will move this stuff to that thread when the site is back up. Thanks.
Prak, the Mad
04-12-07, 12:25 AM Lucifer was chosen because they wanted Lucifer, as in the fallen angel, first among all, closest to god who fell for his pride. Lucifer would not atone. for anything.

also the better way to do this is to use The Tome of Fiends (http://bb.bbboy.net/thegamingden-viewthread?forum=1&thread=688).
cruxvader
04-12-07, 12:30 AM so anything that stands for common sense is satanic?
Prak, the Mad
04-12-07, 12:37 AM huh?
DMaster42
04-12-07, 01:24 AM Again, I'm assuming that he is atoning with a nudge of the Supreme Virtue (overdiety of good). This is a task as much for my current campaign as for other to use. Sure he has pride, but that can be twisted to say that the Overlord of Hell hurt his pride so much that he would do anything to do as much damage as inhumanly possible to Hell and Asmodeus. That's wear the atoning and the celestials come into play. At least that's my reasoning. Maybe the Supreme had this planned. He and the Overlord of Hell are overgods, we mere mortals can not possibly fathom the level of planning and plotting they have.
Prak, the Mad
04-12-07, 02:32 PM meh, we can, it's all about worship.

anyway, like I said, the best way to stat Lucifer woud be to use the Tome of Fiends.
Witch
04-12-07, 02:42 PM meh, we can, it's all about worship.

anyway, like I said, the best way to stat Lucifer woud be to use the Tome of Fiends.

He's going by Dicefreaks rules. I rather doubt the Tome of Fiends would be sufficient, given the fact that Lucifer was a DvR 18 deity earlier, in DF vision. DMaster42; just ask advice on this on Dicefreaks when it gets back on - it's rather unlikely people will be able to help here due to the alternate cosmology we use.
DMaster42
04-12-07, 02:44 PM Will do Witch. *salutes*
Prak, the Mad
04-12-07, 02:48 PM yeah, I don't frequent dicefreaks, to many websites to remember as it is... check there, it'll be a lot more helpful than a s#!tstorm brewing satanist on these boards will....

I meant myself.
Romtos
04-14-07, 03:15 AM There was a wonderful history concerning Lucifer the Satan on Dicefreaks. Long story, well written.
DMaster42
04-14-07, 07:00 PM Yeah, I read it. It's very nice. I'm using it for this version of him. Although there are couple of versions so we could be thinking of a couple of different stories.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
DMaster42 04-12-07, 12:07 AM	I am on a mission to stat Lucifer after he was defeated by Asmodeus (I'm assuming that he survived and escaped somehow). He is now traveling the Material Plane trying to atone and rise to Celestia once more. Now, I'm going to stat him basically as a celestial, but really he hasn't achieved full powers of what he had when he was first a celestial (I'm using the back story that he is a fallen celestial). I'm using DiceFreaks rules, but I'm going to have to go a little off road because their Cosmic Entities template hasn't been done for Celestials. So I was thinking about making him with 40-50 outsider HD and 40-50 class levels (Paladin/Cleric most likely). I'm probably going to say that the Supreme Virtue went and changed him to make him like that since he was definitely different in Hell. Any suggestions or comments? Please don't just tell me it can't/shouldn't be done. That's not helpful. Constructive criticism is what I need. If anyone saw my thread on the DiceFreaks website, I didn't get to see it after I posted before the site had some problems (or at least I can't get to it), so I will move this stuff to that thread when the site is back up. Thanks.
Prak, the Mad 04-12-07, 12:25 AM	Lucifer was chosen because they wanted Lucifer, as in the fallen angel, first among all, closest to god who fell for his pride. Lucifer would not atone. for anything. also the better way to do this is to use The Tome of Fiends (http://bb.bbboy.net/thegamingden-viewthread?forum=1&thread=688).
cruxvader 04-12-07, 12:30 AM	so anything that stands for common sense is satanic?
Prak, the Mad 04-12-07, 12:37 AM	huh?
DMaster42 04-12-07, 01:24 AM	Again, I'm assuming that he is atoning with a nudge of the Supreme Virtue (overdiety of good). This is a task as much for my current campaign as for other to use. Sure he has pride, but that can be twisted to say that the Overlord of Hell hurt his pride so much that he would do anything to do as much damage as inhumanly possible to Hell and Asmodeus. That's wear the atoning and the celestials come into play. At least that's my reasoning. Maybe the Supreme had this planned. He and the Overlord of Hell are overgods, we mere mortals can not possibly fathom the level of planning and plotting they have.
Prak, the Mad 04-12-07, 02:32 PM	meh, we can, it's all about worship. anyway, like I said, the best way to stat Lucifer woud be to use the Tome of Fiends.
Witch 04-12-07, 02:42 PM	meh, we can, it's all about worship. anyway, like I said, the best way to stat Lucifer woud be to use the Tome of Fiends. He's going by Dicefreaks rules. I rather doubt the Tome of Fiends would be sufficient, given the fact that Lucifer was a DvR 18 deity earlier, in DF vision. DMaster42; just ask advice on this on Dicefreaks when it gets back on - it's rather unlikely people will be able to help here due to the alternate cosmology we use.
DMaster42 04-12-07, 02:44 PM	Will do Witch. salutes
Prak, the Mad 04-12-07, 02:48 PM	yeah, I don't frequent dicefreaks, to many websites to remember as it is... check there, it'll be a lot more helpful than a s#!tstorm brewing satanist on these boards will.... I meant myself.
Romtos 04-14-07, 03:15 AM	There was a wonderful history concerning Lucifer the Satan on Dicefreaks. Long story, well written.
DMaster42 04-14-07, 07:00 PM	Yeah, I read it. It's very nice. I'm using it for this version of him. Although there are couple of versions so we could be thinking of a couple of different stories.