Modron Stats [Archive] - Wizards Community

Modron Stats [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Singer_of_the_Song
03-06-07, 11:18 PM How are the Modron stats from the Manual of the Planes free web enhancement viewed? Well-done or poorly?
ripvanwormer
03-07-07, 01:07 AM There's very little about them that's different from previous editions, so there's no cause for complaint on those grounds.
Rohano
03-08-07, 10:08 AM I thought they could have used some more material but I think their stats are fine.
However, the April Dragon may ease the pain a bit.
Kain Darkwind
03-08-07, 10:50 AM Like many direct translations from 1/2e to 3e (slaad), I didn't think they left a lot of room for manuevering. The secundi, despite being a 'base monster' were on par with unique devils and demons in the MM2. Now, not so much, even with the assumption that unique monsters are just a hair above a regular pit fiend.

I personally liked the spreading out of HD and CR that 3.5 did for their demons and devils, but I would have vastly prefered it if they had done the same for their Law, Chaos and Good exemplars as well. I hope the Dragon piece on Modrons does so.
omegalith
03-08-07, 02:55 PM I personally liked the spreading out of HD and CR that 3.5 did for their demons and devils, but I would have vastly prefered it if they had done the same for their Law, Chaos and Good exemplars as well. I hope the Dragon piece on Modrons does so.

Dungeon has a Tertian build at Cr19, but with the Construct type instead of Outsider. (Idiotic, as an exemplar pretty much has to be an Outsider to make any sense.)

Since the author of the article stated on the Paizo boards that his Modrons were Constructs, I would assume that was the official build and the Secundi are similar to Solars.
ripvanwormer
03-08-07, 04:27 PM I understand that the Dragon article just has the "drone" caste modrons, so the question of how tough secundi would be is pretty much academic.
omegalith
03-08-07, 07:35 PM I understand that the Dragon article just has the "drone" caste modrons, so the question of how tough secundi would be is pretty much academic.

Yes, however since the tertian is more powerful than in 3.0 and uses the new type(combined with the reluctance to make epic creatures), I would say its a fairly safe assumption.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Singer_of_the_Song 03-06-07, 11:18 PM	How are the Modron stats from the Manual of the Planes free web enhancement viewed? Well-done or poorly?
ripvanwormer 03-07-07, 01:07 AM	There's very little about them that's different from previous editions, so there's no cause for complaint on those grounds.
Rohano 03-08-07, 10:08 AM	I thought they could have used some more material but I think their stats are fine. However, the April Dragon may ease the pain a bit.
Kain Darkwind 03-08-07, 10:50 AM	Like many direct translations from 1/2e to 3e (slaad), I didn't think they left a lot of room for manuevering. The secundi, despite being a 'base monster' were on par with unique devils and demons in the MM2. Now, not so much, even with the assumption that unique monsters are just a hair above a regular pit fiend. I personally liked the spreading out of HD and CR that 3.5 did for their demons and devils, but I would have vastly prefered it if they had done the same for their Law, Chaos and Good exemplars as well. I hope the Dragon piece on Modrons does so.
omegalith 03-08-07, 02:55 PM	I personally liked the spreading out of HD and CR that 3.5 did for their demons and devils, but I would have vastly prefered it if they had done the same for their Law, Chaos and Good exemplars as well. I hope the Dragon piece on Modrons does so. Dungeon has a Tertian build at Cr19, but with the Construct type instead of Outsider. (Idiotic, as an exemplar pretty much has to be an Outsider to make any sense.) Since the author of the article stated on the Paizo boards that his Modrons were Constructs, I would assume that was the official build and the Secundi are similar to Solars.
ripvanwormer 03-08-07, 04:27 PM	I understand that the Dragon article just has the "drone" caste modrons, so the question of how tough secundi would be is pretty much academic.
omegalith 03-08-07, 07:35 PM	I understand that the Dragon article just has the "drone" caste modrons, so the question of how tough secundi would be is pretty much academic. Yes, however since the tertian is more powerful than in 3.0 and uses the new type(combined with the reluctance to make epic creatures), I would say its a fairly safe assumption.