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bhu 07-12-07, 03:10 AM	Peeking about the web I found the following: goblinoids http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maglubiyet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khurgorbaeyag http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomog-Geaya http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hruggek http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grankhul http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skiggaret http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kikanuti http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bargrivyek orcs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gruumsh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shargaas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahgtru http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luthic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilneval http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yurtrus Are theseall the gods for the various orc/goblin races in DND? And if so does anyone know if theyve ever been fleshed out more than these entries? I ask because I'm wanting to design some religious PrC's for the races involved.
GoukaRyuu 07-12-07, 08:40 AM	I know someone posted an expansion of the orc pantheon a few months back. I'll post a link when I get the chance. EDIT: Dastari expanded the orc pantheon here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=771260) and created and expanded upon their realms here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=773163).
bhu 07-13-07, 03:54 AM	Much thanks. I gues no ones ever done much with the goblinoid gods huh?
ripvanwormer 07-13-07, 10:19 AM	Much thanks. I gues no ones ever done much with the goblinoid gods huh? I have. I added four goddesses to the pantheon, culled from various 3rd-party sources and expanded by me. I'll have to see what I've got done so far.
ripvanwormer 07-13-07, 11:01 AM	Bargrivyek, LE lesser god of cooperation, territory. Hell/Avernus/The Peaceable Lands. Cleric 40 Borzsanna the Vile-Hearted, NE demigoddess of discord, jealousy, avarice, cruelty, malcontent. Acheron/Avalas/Clangor. Chelitiara the Venomed One, CE demigoddess of poison, snakes. Baator/Avernus/The Peaceable Lands. Elishadra the Pain-Giver, LE demigoddess of pain, torture. Acheron/Avalas/Clangor Khurgorbaeyag, NE lesser god of goblins, slavery, oppression, morale. Acheron/Avalas/Clangor. Maglubiyet - NE greater god of war, rulership, male fertility. Acheron/Avalas/Clangor. Nomog-Geaya, LE lesser god of hobgoblins, war, authority. Acheron/Avalas/Clangor. Stalker, NE demigod of hate, death, cold. Prime Material Plane/wanders. Vershnat, the Prolific Mother, NE greater goddess of fertility, fecundity, reproduction, the warren. Acheron/Avalas/Clangor. Stalker is from Monster Mythology. Borzsanna, Chelitiara, and Elishadra are from Dark Folk from Mayfair Games, which was a 3rd party AD&D supplement published at the beginning of time. Vershnat is from the Book of Erotic Fantasy.
ripvanwormer 07-13-07, 11:24 AM	Elishadra The Pain-Giver, the Witch Demigoddess Symbol: Hand with razor-sharp nails Home Plane: Acheron/Avalas/Clangor Alignment: LE Aliases: Elishardia Superior: Maglubiyet Allies: Chelitiara, Vershnat, Borzsanna, Khurgorbaeyag, Bargrivyek Foes: Sheyanna Flaxenstrand, Valkauna, Sharindlar, Haela Brightaxe Servants: Datamar (NE bebelith shapechanger) Servitor Creatures: Marrashi, retrievers, kytons Manifestations: Goblins fear that the avatar of Elishadra lurks deep underground, her razor-sharp nails ready to snatch the unwary. Legends whisper of kings whose brides turned into Elishadra on their wedding nights, leaving them shattered and broken after withstanding the Pain-Giver's idea of fun. Signs of Favor: Elishadra shows her favor and answers divinations through vermin that sparkle like beautiful gems, sparkling centipedes, spiders, and scorpions that chitter secrets to her faithful. Worshipers: Female goblins and female hobgoblins Cleric Alignments: LE, NE Holy Days: Rites propitiating Elishadra are performed by her priestesses monthly, during the waning of the moon. The orgiastic rites of Elishadra are excrutiating for their victims, involving being cast bleeding into pits of carnivorous insects or bound on top of ant hills. Portfolio: Pain, torture, sorcery, vermin, disease Domains: Magic, Animal, Suffering Favored Weapon: Claws Elishadra is one of the three daughters of Vershnat and Maglubiyet. These three sisters plotted the destruction of their sire and, failing, they were cast from Clangor to wander the mortal world. For centuries they roamed seeking worshippers through whose sacrifices they could regain their power. In time they married powerful goblin leaders and overthrew them through wit and treachery. Daily sacrifices of elves, dwarves, kobolds, orcs, and humans quickly replenished their powers. In turn, they were not unkind to their worshippers, for they taught them the arts of torture, deceit, and poison making. As the power of the evil trio grew, so did the power of their priestesses, who spurred on the tribes to greater deeds of slaughter. Ultimately, Maglubiyet recognized their usefulness and accepted them back into the fold, marrying them to his three remaining sons. Elishadra, the most powerful of the three, is married to Khurgorbaeyag. She appears in the guise of an aged goblin crone, her face covered with hideous scars, warts, boils, and ulcers, the nails on her claw-like hands long and browned with age, and her body and clothing filthy and crawling with lice and other vermin. She delights in slow torture and inflicting great pain. Priestesses of Elishadra teach that their patron learned magic by listening to the small vermin that crawled about her nest. While her sisters were preoccupied with their status in goblin society, the crawling things taught Elishadra secrets. After remaining in her nest for a century while vermin fed her and whispered to her, she followed them to the mother of all vermin, a mysterious being associated with a wide variety of other goddesses - Lolth, Cegilune, Wee Jas, Beltar, and many others, though the entity was possibly none of them. In return for this instruction, she gave the entity her living heart, replacing it with a pulsing, chitinous creature that forever after takes its share of her blood as it keeps her life flowing through her veins. She returned as a powerful adept who won the attention of Khurgorbaeyag, a god almost as cruel as herself. Publically, Elishadra is subordinate to Maglubiyet and her husband, Khurgorbaeyag. Her priesthood acts out this charade. The priests of Khurgorbaeyag teach that slavery and oppression begin in the home, and that women exist to improve the morale of the men. They teach that women must be obedient in all things, acquiescing instantly to every one of the desires of their mates. They claim many things, and in public the priestesses of Elishadra agree. They act in an advisory role, supporting goblin soldiers with magic and supporting goblin slavers with the torture arts. When the men are away at war, or when their back are turned, or when they beg in private to be on the receiving end of discipline, then another story is told. One myth, hidden from all but initiates of Elishadra, has it that Elishadra is not truly Maglubiyet's daughter at all, that she was born after her mother Vershnat swallowed a spider. The priesthood of Elishadra teaches that the male gods are irrelevant, that their zealous insistence on the superiority of their gender reveals just how insecure they really are. Elishadra's husband Khurgorbaeyag is used as the primary illustration of this fact, and many secret stories are told of his legendary cowardice before non-goblin gods, of times when he fled the gods of the dwarves, orcs, or even the kobolds to cower in his lair, and of the punishments Elishadra administered to him in private - punishments he secretly craves. Of all the goblinoid gods (save perhaps Belgrath, the bugbear goddess of the earth) Elishadra is closest to her mother Vershnat. Elishadra is privy to Vershnat's innermost thoughts (or, at least, so she believes) and in return she acts as her mother's enforcer, punishing those who slight her. Elishadra's fiendish mount, Datamar, is a many-legged spider steed with the ability to assume the shape of any humanoid. He often uses this power to infiltrate other societies and lure victims to his mistress.
ripvanwormer 07-13-07, 11:37 AM	Chelethiara The Venomed One, the Assassin Demigoddess Alias: Chelitiara Symbol: Serpent Home Plane: Baator/Avernus/The Peaceable Lands Alignment: LE Superior: Maglubiyet Allies: Borzsanna, Elishadra, Bargrivyek Foes: Sheyanna Flaxenstrand, Valkauna, Sharindlar, Haela Brightaxe Servants: Effla (half fiendish hobgoblin monk 15/assassin 5) Servitor Creatures: Assassin devils, half-fiendish goblins, fiendish yuan-ti, fiendish medusae, night hags Manifestations: Chelethiara may manifest as a hissing sound from apparently nowhere just before someone dies. She may send her intelligence into the minds of mundane serpents and snakes. Most commonly, she sends visions of herself in dreams. Signs of Favor: Those who Chelethiara favors will encounter unusual luck in covert murders. This is a double-edged blade, because they will be given orders from time to time while they sleep, told to kill more and more to satiate their goddess's desire. Worshipers: Chelethiara's chosen are a secret force within goblin and hobgoblin society, an order of women answering to no one but the hidden priestesses of the cult. Male goblin assassins revere her as well, praying for her to bless their blade, but the true chosen of Chelethiara are ubiquitous shadows, sometimes spending years with their husbands before revealing that they have orders to kill them whenever they become inconvenient to the order. She is also prayed to for protection from nightmares and dream magic, and for aid in divining the visions sent in dreams by the gods. Holy Days: Chelethiara's faithful honor her with sapient blood on their daggers, monthly at the time of the new moon. Portfolio: Poison, assassinations, snakes, dreams Cleric Alignments: LE, NE, CE Domains: Scalykind, Trickery, Evil Favored Weapon: Envenomed dagger Chelethiara can appear in the guise of any venomous creature, but in her preferred form she is a giant snake from the waist down and a hideous goblin woman from the waist up. She often disguises herself as an innocent maiden of any species to trick her opponents. She can spit venom which kills instantly; her bite will drain strength, dexterity, constitution, intelligence, wisdom, or charisma until her victim dies. She can walk through dreams. Chelethiara, the wife of Bargrivyek, is the patron of subtle deaths. She kills without violence or bravery through food or even through dreams. Some of the goblin deities, including Nomog-Geaya and Maglubiyet himself, think her weak because of this, but even Maglubiyet once made use of her to kill his son Tubro, god of trickery and wealth, who had grown too powerful to control. As a result, Chelethiara has also become the patron of women who kill their husbands. No one trusts her now, but she makes a good match for Bargrivyek all the same. Bargrivyek, alone of the male goblin deities, councils peace between warring goblin tribes. He prefers more civilized, non-military means of dealing with problems within the goblinoid races, and his wife agrees. In their shared realm, the Peaceable Lands, Chelethiara and Bargrivyek find their peace most threatened by their neighbor, the kobold god Kurtulmak. Bargrivyek sends raiders in to the kobold realm periodically, while Chelethiara sends squads of assassins. Kurtulmak responds in kind. When Chelethiara and her sisters were exiled on the mortal plane, she dreamed daily of the Outer Planes, and each evening she kept her sisters informed of the goings-on of their kin, buoying their hope of returning and giving them information they would find useful later on. She continues having these dreams today, and even Maglubiyet does not know where she gets her information. When she was not asleep, she was often killing, secretly executing those who did not fall for her or her sister Borzanna's wiles, or those who did and were no longer needed. To those who served her willingly, she gave a few of her secrets. Goblins, male and female alike, praise Chelethiara for teaching them the art of poison and stealth. The story of how Bargrivyek wooed and won Chelethiara is not a romantic one. After she killed her husband Tubro, she was simply assigned Bargrivyek. Bargrivyek knows well that if he becomes inconvenient, she won't hesitate to kill him as well, but for all that there is a strange affection between the two gods. They have, over the countless centuries, become comfortable with one another. Bargrivyek, for his part, works diligently to increase his power through alliances that offer some benefit to his allies, making himself too useful to kill.
RAGNAROKISCOMING2007 07-13-07, 11:45 AM	here are some from Dicefreaks:D stats by phaedros BAGHTRUhttp://community.dicefreaks.com/viewtopic.php?t=557 GRUUMSH http://community.dicefreaks.com/viewtopic.php?t=559 Bargvar by dastari http://community.dicefreaks.com/viewtopic.php?t=6678 BARGRIVYEK by palindrome http://community.dicefreaks.com/viewtopic.php?t=3700 KHURGORBAEYAG by palindrome http://community.dicefreaks.com/viewtopic.php?t=516 NOMOG-GEAYA by palindrome http://community.dicefreaks.com/viewtopic.php?t=656 Ilneval by palindrome http://community.dicefreaks.com/viewtopic.php?t=93
ripvanwormer 07-13-07, 11:51 AM	Borzsanna The Vile-Hearted, The Harlot Demigoddess Symbol: Green Flame Home Plane: Acheron/Avalas/Clangor Alignment: NE Aliases: None Superior: Maglubiyet Allies: Chelitiara, Elishadra, Nomog-Geaya, Bargrivyek Foes: Sheyanna Flaxenstrand, Valkauna, Sharindlar, Haela Brightaxe Servants: Quiorom (erinyes assassin 5), Aphasid (goblin bard 16) Servitor Creatures: Erinyes, fiendish goblins, fiendish hobgoblins Manifestations: Often Borzsanna will manifest through female goblinoids, identifiable only by a glint of green in their eyes, who do her will by manipulating goblinoid males. She may also reveal her incorporeal presence simply as a green torch-flame hovering in the air with no apparent source - in extreme cases, this may grow to a raging green inferno. Signs of Favor: Borzsanna is far more likely to show her disfavor by sowing discord and jealousy among goblins and other races; her 'favor,' such as it is, is demonstrated at best by choosing to leave others alone. Worshipers: Female goblins and female hobgoblins Cleric Alignments: LE, NE, CE Holy Days: Borzsanna has no specific holy days, but she is revered especially during times of crisis, when the hierarchy of a goblin tribe changes dramatically. Portfolio: discord, jealousy, avarice, cruelty, malcontent Domains: Perversion, Trickery, Charm Favored Weapon: Sword Brother (Dagger) The most beautiful and physically weak of the goblin goddesses, Borzsanna is likely the evilest and cruelest of her sisters and certainly the wiliest. She is the patron of goblin women who use their bodies to control the minds of goblinoid men, especially hobgoblin men. Fittingly, this seemingly helpless goblin maiden has gained the protection of Nomog-Geaya, over whom she exerts no small influence. Borzsanna is the sower of discord among the goblin pantheon and those gods outside it, the harbinger of malcontent, the green flame of jealousy, and the queen of avarice. She has the power to infect other gods with one of the qualities in her portfolio with a mere kiss. Her dagger, Sword Brother, will transform into a longsword on command. It is said that Maglubiyet keeps Borzsanna's life in a green gemstone, and if she gets too out of line he will smash it. At the same time, this means she cannot be killed by anyone else, and as a result she fears no one but Fiery-Eyes. During her time of exile, Borzsanna spent the most time seducing powerful goblin chiefs and subverting them to her will. While her sister Chelithiara dreamt and her sister Elishadra whispered to the vermin of the earth, Borzsanna was out in the world, using both her mind and body to her greatest advantage, and loving every minute of it. When she and her sisters were finally permitted to return to Clangor, they were assigned husbands. All three of Maglubiyet's sons petitioned for Borzsanna's hand, and Borzsanna delighted in encouraging them to destroy one another in jealousy. The three gods Bargrivyek, Khurgorbaeyag, and Nomog-Geaya fought for days, competing in feats of strength, speed, and cunning. Though Bargrivyek and Khurgorbaeyag formed an alliance in an attempt to defeat the formidable Nomog-Geaya first before dealing with one another, eventually Khurgorbaeyag triumphed, his greater physical strength and able intellect overcoming the other two after a prolonged battle. Some myths whisper that Borzsanna secretly aided him, using her powers to undermine the alliance that Bargrivyek had forged, and that Nomog-Geaya easily triumphed once Bargrivyek and Khurgorbaeyag began fighting among themselves. Borzsanna is worshiped by troublemakers and entertainers, by those who feel they've been wronged and those who hold grudges, by scorned lovers and the lonely, by prostitutes and dancers. She is the closest thing the goblins have to a goddess of love, which tells you everything you need to know about their culture.
ripvanwormer 07-13-07, 12:00 PM	Vershnat The Prolific Mother, Warren Queen Greater Deity Symbol: Female genitals ringed with teeth Home Plane: Acheron/Avalas/Clangor and Abyss/241st/Palpitatia Alignment: NE Aliases: Niggrath, Teshukret Superior: Maglubiyet Allies: Maglubiyet, Hruggek, Grankhul, Skiggaret, Belgrath, Bargrivyet, Borzsanna, Chelitiara, Dispater, Elishadra, Khurgorbaeyag, Mammon, Nomog-Geaya, Firffuffl'nnb, Kartathok, Kikanuti Foes: Orcish pantheon, Gnome pantheon, Dwarf pantheon, Halfling pantheon, Elf pantheon, Kobold pantheon, most human gods Servants: Mikatet (female half-dragon goblin cleric 20) Servitor Creatures: Barghests, night hags, dragons Manifestations: Teeth or even voices in female genitals, lucidity and conversational ability in very young or fetal goblinoids Signs of Favor: Seemingly spontaneous fertility in female goblinoids too old/young/ugly, unusually large numbers of offspring, unusually strong, clever, attractive, dextrous, or healthy offspring Worshipers: Goblinoids (all) Cleric Alignments: LE, NE, CE Holy Days: Full moon Portfolio: Fertility, Fecundity, Reproduction, the Warren Domains: Evil, Perversion, Protection Favored Weapon: Club ("Brood Bringer") Vershnat was spawned near the dawn of time, descended from still more ancient beings who long precede the present generation of gods, the personified concepts sometimes called Elder Gods or Titans. Some say she is the daughter of the Earth Mother, while others say she was the daughter of Night. Others claim she has some kinship with the elven, dwarven, or orcish pantheons, goblins representing some corruption or redemption of one of those races, though few agree on which one. The Prolific Mother is the mother of every other goblinoid deity. Not just their ancestress, but their mother - every goblinoid god is said to have passed through her womb. This makes their theogony a tangled and contradictory thing; for example, the goblins say she mated with Maglubiyet in order to bear him, and then Maglubiyet sired every other goblin deity. The bugbears claim her as the consort of each of their four male deities, each of them fathering all the others. Only Belgrath, the bugbear goddess of the earth, plays no role in procreation. Even the desert-dwelling bhuka acknowledge Vershnat as the terrifying mother of their gentle, benevolent patron Kikanuti. Lesser deities may have their own mates, but none has given birth, and none ever will without Vershnat's permission. With Maglubiyet she spawned Maglubiyet himself, as well as his sons: Bargrivyet, Khurgorbaeyag, Nomag-Gaeaya and two others that have since been destroyed. Maglubiyet fathered Firffuffl'nnb, the patron of norkers, and Vershnat's three daughters: Borzsanna, Chelitiara, and Elishadra. Goblins and hobgoblins typically claim Maglubiyet as the father of the bugbear gods as well; the bugbears vehemently disagree, though they acknowledge Maglubiyet as a brother of their own gods. On the world of Aebrynis, the goblin races worship the Warren Queen as the mother and consort of their patron Kartathok. There are a few priests of Vershnak among the xvarts, but this is far from an accepted thing for either xvarts or goblins; most clergy among both races deny any familial relationship between their peoples. Goblinoids know that without Vershnat, they would have no children, and thus she has a profound influence over their society and the goblinoid pantheons. She encourages the worship of her stronger offspring and discourages the worship of those of her children whom she considers weak; it was partly because of her influence that Maglubiyet was able to destroy his sons Wogar and Tubro, who tried and failed to seize control of the divine clan from their father. Vershnat is blunt and forthright, prone to mocking those who displease her. By goblin standards, she is quite the comedian. Of her children, Vershnat is closest to her daughters Elishadra and Belgrath, teaching them secrets she shares with no one else. Perhaps she is grooming them to start divine broods of their own, or perhaps she is merely too vain not to demonstrate her breadth of knowledge to others. Shrines to the goddess, deep within the inner sanctums of goblin warrens, contain a huge phallic club, a bowl or cauldron of some sort, and a squat, hideous statue of the goddess herself. Although repulsive by nongoblin standards, the raw sensuality of the idol is obvious.
bhu 07-14-07, 12:58 AM	Oh wow. Thanks a million guys! You do know of the plans to do an orc/goblinoid ebook on the race board yes?