Planes and cleric spellcasting [Archive] - Wizards Community

Planes and cleric spellcasting [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Angus Cotton
04-23-07, 12:08 AM Just a question for those in the know:

In 2nd edition Planescape, if you were a cleric and travelled to a plane that was different from your god or your alignment by more than one step, you were reduced in spellcasting ability on that plane based upon the distance from your alignment or gods home plane. So, for example, if you were a level 18 Lawful Good cleric, and entered Baatar which is Lawful Evil, you would function as a level 15 cleric for purposes of spellcasting (4 steps around the great wheel=3 level drop).

Anyway, my question is, is this rule still around in 3.5? I have been looking around and can't find the rule anywhere in any 3.5 book. Has this rule been scrapped?
Shemeska the Marauder
04-23-07, 02:15 AM Anyway, my question is, is this rule still around in 3.5? I have been looking around and can't find the rule anywhere in any 3.5 book. Has this rule been scrapped?

Yep, it hasn't been carried forward in 3.x. If you like it, by all means continue to use it though. A lot of the plane specific magical alterations have been watered down except for some slim effects of alignment and a handful of spell school effects, but most of the detailed planar magic alterations haven't been brought into 3e, for better or for worse.

I'm of the opinion that it was a great idea in theory, but it seems that it would end up being somewhat awkward when used in an actual game. [But note that I've never played any edition prior to 3e; but I did use the full 2e magic alterations for Carceri in a one-shot game I ran last year].
Angus Cotton
04-23-07, 03:45 PM What about magic that requires Ethereal or Astral connections? In Planescape 2nd ed., You could not cast a spell in the ethereal plane that required an astral connection (such as Astral Spell), nor could you cast a spell in the astral plane that required an ethereal connection (such as Rope Trick). Was that rule scrapped in 3rd (and 3.5) edition too?
Shemeska the Marauder
04-23-07, 03:57 PM Certain spells still require access to the astral, ethereal, or shadow. And planes that lack such tangent access don't allow for those spells to be used on those planes. For instance you can't use Ethereal Jaunt on the outer planes, etc.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Angus Cotton 04-23-07, 12:08 AM	Just a question for those in the know: In 2nd edition Planescape, if you were a cleric and travelled to a plane that was different from your god or your alignment by more than one step, you were reduced in spellcasting ability on that plane based upon the distance from your alignment or gods home plane. So, for example, if you were a level 18 Lawful Good cleric, and entered Baatar which is Lawful Evil, you would function as a level 15 cleric for purposes of spellcasting (4 steps around the great wheel=3 level drop). Anyway, my question is, is this rule still around in 3.5? I have been looking around and can't find the rule anywhere in any 3.5 book. Has this rule been scrapped?
Shemeska the Marauder 04-23-07, 02:15 AM	Anyway, my question is, is this rule still around in 3.5? I have been looking around and can't find the rule anywhere in any 3.5 book. Has this rule been scrapped? Yep, it hasn't been carried forward in 3.x. If you like it, by all means continue to use it though. A lot of the plane specific magical alterations have been watered down except for some slim effects of alignment and a handful of spell school effects, but most of the detailed planar magic alterations haven't been brought into 3e, for better or for worse. I'm of the opinion that it was a great idea in theory, but it seems that it would end up being somewhat awkward when used in an actual game. [But note that I've never played any edition prior to 3e; but I did use the full 2e magic alterations for Carceri in a one-shot game I ran last year].
Angus Cotton 04-23-07, 03:45 PM	What about magic that requires Ethereal or Astral connections? In Planescape 2nd ed., You could not cast a spell in the ethereal plane that required an astral connection (such as Astral Spell), nor could you cast a spell in the astral plane that required an ethereal connection (such as Rope Trick). Was that rule scrapped in 3rd (and 3.5) edition too?
Shemeska the Marauder 04-23-07, 03:57 PM	Certain spells still require access to the astral, ethereal, or shadow. And planes that lack such tangent access don't allow for those spells to be used on those planes. For instance you can't use Ethereal Jaunt on the outer planes, etc.