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sciborg2 05-22-07, 12:24 AM	What role do the Fey, who have their own wandering demiplane and struggles of the Seelie vs Unseele, play in planar politics?
Naderion 05-22-07, 05:27 AM	Usually, none. I think of fey as the native outsiders of the material plane, just as the fiends and celestials of the outer planes and the elementals of the inner planes. Because the material plane is kind of seperated from the outer planes, the influence of the fey is mostly limited to the material and they don't have any real connection to the outer planes. Also, I don't know of any pupular published setting, that has its own plane of fey.
Deacon Liadon 05-22-07, 07:38 AM	The plane of Faerie is detailed in the Manual of the Planes. I believe it's one of those infinite demiplanes like dream or time.
Phantom Llama 05-22-07, 07:40 AM	The fey are the avatars/exemplars of nature and the Prime Material. Politically, they oppose deities, outsiders, civilisation and other consequences of thinking too hard. For the DF iterations we're planning to move them out of a demiplane and onto lower layers of the Prime.
Fabius Maximus 05-22-07, 07:41 AM	Usually, none. I think of fey as the native outsiders of the material plane, just as the fiends and celestials of the outer planes and the elementals of the inner planes. Because the material plane is kind of seperated from the outer planes, the influence of the fey is mostly limited to the material and they don't have any real connection to the outer planes. Also, I don't know of any pupular published setting, that has its own plane of fey. Greyhawk and FR have Faerie. Eberron has Thelanis. That's not to say that there aren't fey living on the material planes. Given that most of them are fascinated with mortals (and maybe need them to procreate), that's quite understandable.
Steely_Dan 05-22-07, 08:34 AM	In the 2nd edition Planescape cosmology the good fey have their own demi-plane (Seelie Court) that wanders through the Upper (outer) Planes. And the evil fey (The Unseelie Court) are situated on the 3rd layer of Pandemonium (Phlegethon). In the 3rd edition cosmology they have their own Plane of Faerie, coterminous with the Material Plane.
Ouranos Harpy 05-22-07, 04:28 PM	I like to conceive the Fey as the true incarnates of Chaotic neutral. There's something about that the Slaad that just does not exemplify Chaos, at least the way I understand the attribute. They exist in a hierarchy and actually change themselves to further understand the "layers of chaos". To me Xos represents fierce individuality, an untamed lack of uniformity. I don't see Chaos as solely brute, savage or even rustic. I do believe that this is the image that is frequently projected. The Fey represent the fullest extent of Chaos. They have two faces; Seelie and Unseelie. They exist in a state of moral hypocrisy, which demonstrates the fickle and mercurial nature of Chaos. They exist in a myriad of forms that fit into practically every niche and alignment. They don't need to morph or change to understand themselves or the womb that birthed them. They are liars, dreamers, witches and storytellers. The Fey show us the dual aspect of Chaos; the creator and the destroyer. They are nomads, their entire plane moving as they desire. A common misconception, I believe people make is identifying the Fey solely with nature. I think Fey represent the subconscious more than they represent nature. The creatures are like fragments picked from dreams and manifested on earth. I do believe that there can be urban fey; the Domovoi or the Splinterwaif [Which I think is a Fey creature]. So I think the fey play a role in quietly advancing Xos not in planar politics, but on the material plane. Their existence and their interference in mortal matters spreads Xos and sustains the attribute’s power on the Planes. I think the Slaad have a role as well. They display the brute force, the raw strength of the chaotic character. Think the Fey/Slaad split something like the Modron/Formian split in Law.
Shemeska the Marauder 05-22-07, 09:44 PM	I tend to view the fey as the "outsiders" of the prime material, exemplars of mortality writ large, personifications of the extremes of what the mortal life of the prime material can provide if mortality itself was no longer a limiting factor. As such they don't have much interaction with the beings of the outer planes, and not much of a role in planar politics because their own internal dance of court politics is complex enough as it is. I do tend to leave it open that the precursors of the Eladrin might have had contact with them, and possibly might have even modeled their creation of the Eladrin on the fey of the prime material/Faerie.
ripvanwormer 05-23-07, 11:43 AM	What role do the Fey, who have their own wandering demiplane and struggles of the Seelie vs Unseele, play in planar politics? Long ago, after the destruction of Ladinion and the death of Rhiannon, their first queen, the fey were scattered throughout the multiverse. Eventually some of them regrouped under the leadership of one of the two royal princesses, the so-called Queen of Air and Darkness and Titania, but without Ladinion they had no plane to call their own. The Queen of Air and Darkness created a realm in Pandemonium, but Titania could find no place that would accept her wild court - the lower planes disgusted her, while the mad revels of her people made even Arborea a poor fit. The altruistic eladrins couldn't comprehend the twisted alien ethics of the fey, the lords of the Beastlands wouldn't appreciate their fondness for civilization, the elves of Alfheim were too fiercely territorial to allow them to setting nearby without war, and the slaadi were far too chaotic to appreciate the fey's love of form and glamour, the toadlike cultists of Ssendam and Ygorl constantly seeking to tear down what the dream-palaces and cloud-castles the fey wished to build. Titania's followers continued to wander from dream to dream, from bower to glen, always refugees surviving by charity or theft. Then one day a visitor came to Titania's presence, kneeling respectfully; some claim he was a tall, dark man, while others claim she was a small child. Still others claim the visitor was a blue-skinned giant, the first known legend of the mercanes. The visitor offered Titania a bargain - a realm of her own that she could shape to accommodate all the dreams of the faerie court. No more would they have to beg or steal for food, as the plane itself would provide for all their needs, as once Ladinion did before the entropic forces of the Black Diamond tore it apart. Titania accepted, not asking the price - she was so used to begging by this point that she owed favors to beings all over the multiverse. The price, when she finally learned it, shocked her - the sacrifice of mortal souls to the Abyss every seven years. As it turned out, her realm was a former Abyssal layer, shaped to her will now, yes, but it was only out on loan, and any time her mysterious patron could claim it, could pull it back home and fill it full of horrors unimaginable. So the fey have their plane, yes, and it wanders as Titania wills it, endlessly traveling the planes to pay off the faerie queen's debts, yet one debt can never be fully paid off, and it eats at her like a black rot, the unerasable stain on her perfect world. In Baator, the Dark Eight have learned of this vulnerability, and the Ministry of Immortal Relations has sent an ambassador to the fey to see if they can exploit it, offer them a way out of their contract with the Abyss. For a price, of course.
Steely_Dan 05-23-07, 11:53 AM	Long ago, after the destruction of Ladinion and the death of Rhiannon, their first queen, the fey were scattered throughout the multiverse. Eventually some of them regrouped under the leadership of one of the two royal princesses, the so-called Queen of Air and Darkness and Titania, but without Ladinion they had no plane to call their own. The Queen of Air and Darkness created a realm in Pandemonium, but Titania could find no place that would accept her wild court - the lower planes disgusted her, while the mad revels of her people made even Arborea a poor fit. The altruistic eladrins couldn't comprehend the twisted alien ethics of the fey, the lords of the Beastlands wouldn't appreciate their fondness for civilization, the elves of Alfheim were too fiercely territorial to allow them to setting nearby without war, and the slaadi were far too chaotic to appreciate the fey's love of form and glamour, the toadlike cultists of Ssendam and Ygorl constantly seeking to tear down what the dream-palaces and cloud-castles the fey wished to build. Titania's followers continued to wander from dream to dream, from bower to glen, always refugees surviving by charity or theft. Then one day a visitor came to Titania's presence, kneeling respectfully; some claim he was a tall, dark man, while others claim she was a small child. Still others claim the visitor was a blue-skinned giant, the first known legend of the mercanes. The visitor offered Titania a bargain - a realm of her own that she could shape to accommodate all the dreams of the faerie court. No more would they have to beg or steal for food, as the plane itself would provide for all their needs, as once Ladinion did before the entropic forces of the Black Diamond tore it apart. Titania accepted, not asking the price - she was so used to begging by this point that she owed favors to beings all over the multiverse. The price, when she finally learned it, shocked her - the sacrifice of mortal souls to the Abyss every seven years. As it turned out, her realm was a former Abyssal layer, shaped to her will now, yes, but it was only out on loan, and any time her mysterious patron could claim it, could pull it back home and fill it full of horrors unimaginable. So the fey have their plane, yes, and it wanders as Titania wills it, endlessly traveling the planes to pay off the faerie queen's debts, yet one debt can never be fully paid off, and it eats at her like a black rot, the unerasable stain on her perfect world. In Baator, the Dark Eight have learned of this vulnerability, and the Ministry of Immortal Relations has sent an ambassador to the fey to see if they can exploit it, offer them a way out of their contract with the Abyss. For a price, of course. Nice – where did you get this info – is it canon (Planescape fluff etc)?
Naderion 05-23-07, 11:55 AM	Then one day a visitor came to Titania's presence, kneeling respectfully; some claim he was a tall, dark man, while others claim she was a small child. I know this guy! :D
ripvanwormer 05-23-07, 12:06 PM	Nice – where did you get this info – is it canon (Planescape fluff etc)? Just the unimportant parts. Ladinion and its fate is from Monster Mythology, Rhiannon is from Dragon #155, the wanderingness of the Seelie Court is from Planes of Chaos, but most of this was invented by me. The idea of the faeries sacrificing mortals to pay their tithe to Hell comes from the traditional ballad of Tam Linn.
Shemeska the Marauder 05-23-07, 12:37 PM	Long ago, after the destruction of Ladinion and the death of Rhiannon, their first queen, the fey were scattered throughout the multiverse. Eventually some of them regrouped under the leadership of one of the two royal princesses, the so-called Queen of Air and Darkness and Titania, but without Ladinion they had no plane to call their own. The Queen of Air and Darkness created a realm in Pandemonium, but Titania could find no place that would accept her wild court - the lower planes disgusted her, while the mad revels of her people made even Arborea a poor fit. The altruistic eladrins couldn't comprehend the twisted alien ethics of the fey, the lords of the Beastlands wouldn't appreciate their fondness for civilization, the elves of Alfheim were too fiercely territorial to allow them to setting nearby without war, and the slaadi were far too chaotic to appreciate the fey's love of form and glamour, the toadlike cultists of Ssendam and Ygorl constantly seeking to tear down what the dream-palaces and cloud-castles the fey wished to build. Titania's followers continued to wander from dream to dream, from bower to glen, always refugees surviving by charity or theft. Then one day a visitor came to Titania's presence, kneeling respectfully; some claim he was a tall, dark man, while others claim she was a small child. Still others claim the visitor was a blue-skinned giant, the first known legend of the mercanes. The visitor offered Titania a bargain - a realm of her own that she could shape to accommodate all the dreams of the faerie court. No more would they have to beg or steal for food, as the plane itself would provide for all their needs, as once Ladinion did before the entropic forces of the Black Diamond tore it apart. Titania accepted, not asking the price - she was so used to begging by this point that she owed favors to beings all over the multiverse. The price, when she finally learned it, shocked her - the sacrifice of mortal souls to the Abyss every seven years. As it turned out, her realm was a former Abyssal layer, shaped to her will now, yes, but it was only out on loan, and any time her mysterious patron could claim it, could pull it back home and fill it full of horrors unimaginable. So the fey have their plane, yes, and it wanders as Titania wills it, endlessly traveling the planes to pay off the faerie queen's debts, yet one debt can never be fully paid off, and it eats at her like a black rot, the unerasable stain on her perfect world. In Baator, the Dark Eight have learned of this vulnerability, and the Ministry of Immortal Relations has sent an ambassador to the fey to see if they can exploit it, offer them a way out of their contract with the Abyss. For a price, of course. Niiiiice. :D Where is the bit about the Black Diamond from Rip? Also from Monster Mythology?
ripvanwormer 05-23-07, 01:46 PM	Niiiiice. :D Where is the bit about the Black Diamond from Rip? Also from Monster Mythology? Yes. A gemstone, brought to the princess of Air and Darkness as a gift by the dwarves, which corrupted her, turned her into a souless husk, and destroyed her homeland. There are hints that it's connected to Tharizdun (called the Dark God in Monster Mythology).
sciborg2 05-23-07, 09:50 PM	I know this guy! Can you guess his name? ;) Great story Rip, mixing legends of fey and Monster Mythology. Any info on what caused the cataclysm during Rhiannon's reign?
malykoth 05-23-07, 10:10 PM	By "mortal souls", do they mean fey or humans? (by human, I mean standard races) I hardly think most of the fey would care too much about tossing out a few humans to the demons...certainly no more than a human culture would tossing a few goats to a monster to keep it at bay. The DC/Vertigo comic "Sandman" also had a version of the hell-tithe, and it involved handing over (IIRC) the seven finest fey every seven years (which sounds like a real stupid deal to me). This struck me as more tragic, at least for the fey, themselves. They were always loosing their best and brightest. The description of the iron ship that came for the tithe was particularly effective and creepy. Anyone else remember reading it?
sciborg2 05-23-07, 10:38 PM	that was probably the creepiest story out of Books of Magic...which in turn was a great, great series. I too remember appreciating the role Hell played in the tale.
Andyr 05-24-07, 06:53 PM	If we have the Far Realm--a hyper-real place of unknown (unknowable?) laws and rules, which can seem like an abstraction of reality, then I can see Faerie as being the reverse. A "Near Realm", which is full of the lust and emotion of life, but more so. I guess this is similar to what Shemmy posted. I can't think of much I have read which mentions their roles in planar politics, outside perhaps of the planes the Seelie and Unseelie Court lie on. I don't really know what the agenda of the fey would be--the continued existence of the Prime Material?
Beau 05-25-07, 03:02 AM	I liked the book Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norell, interesting Fey characters and interactions with mortals in an alternate 18th century Europe, anybody else read that one. It conveyed elements of both the human like egocentricity of the fey and their alieness at the same time. Emphasizes pact type magic in the plot.
Lina_Inverse 05-25-07, 09:21 PM	I like to conceive the Fey as the true incarnates of Chaotic neutral. There's something about that the Slaad that just does not exemplify Chaos, at least the way I understand the attribute. They exist in a hierarchy and actually change themselves to further understand the "layers of chaos". To me Xos represents fierce individuality, an untamed lack of uniformity. I don't see Chaos as solely brute, savage or even rustic. I do believe that this is the image that is frequently projected. Chaos is change. Other than that, chaos is brute, savage and rustic because chaos opposes society. As society brings tyranny, slavery, tradition, hierarchy, conformity and contentment. Things which promote stagnation, order, law. Chaos is the enemy of these things, for chaos wishes only to see destruction and creation without rhyme or reason.
Weenie 05-26-07, 07:10 AM	The DC/Vertigo comic "Sandman" also had a version of the hell-tithe, and it involved handing over (IIRC) the seven finest fey every seven years (which sounds like a real stupid deal to me). This struck me as more tragic, at least for the fey, themselves. They were always loosing their best and brightest. The description of the iron ship that came for the tithe was particularly effective and creepy. Anyone else remember reading it? Yes. It was later dealt with more closely in another comic, Books of Magic. That story is eerily similar to Rip's version, except the offer was presented not to Titania/Auberon, but to the first eight leader figures of the wandering Faerie courts. As soon as they agreed, Lucifer Morningstar took seven of them with him, and left the eighth (Huon the Small) as the first king of Faerie. In that version Titania came much later, and was originally a foundling from a mortal world. Her and Auberon's son, Taik, was one of the faeries given to Hell, though he later escaped, sort of.
ripvanwormer 06-02-07, 06:49 PM	In the snowy fields and forests, in the icy rivers and streams, in the frost-covered houses, in the hail and the sleet, tiny voices rang out: "The king of winter is getting married!" They shouted to the frost sprites and the uldra, to the ice nymphs and the oreads of the peaks: a grand wedding was going to be held between Jack Frost, Faerie King of Winter, and the Queen of Air and Darkness. On the Paraelemental Plane of Ice, the shaggy, hoar-covered form of Cryonax could be seen putting on his best suit. In separate regions of Winter's Hall, Loki and Auril nodded and called servants to pick out wedding gifts - nothing too fancy, mind you. In Limbo, Fenmarel Mestarine read his invitation and promptly threw it away. When ice crystals wrote much the same message on Titania's window, she put on a bemused look and politely asked the ambassadors to leave her vine-covered throne room for the nonce - the goat-footed, forked-tongue ambassador from the Nine Hells, whose presence was like cold iron; the purple-skinned night hag ambassador from her sister Cegilune's court; and the shifting, shimmering creature, neither sprite nor quasit nor crow but something that occasionally looked like all of those things and was perhaps the real power behind her throne - she called for her husband, King Oberon, and asked him what he thought. Oberon was as perplexed as she was. "Wait, they invited you?" "Well, he did. I don't know what she thinks." Oberon stroked the fletching on one of his enchanted arrows. "I don't think he knows what he's getting into at all. She's just going to suck out his soul and add his armies to her own. Does he even know you two aren't getting along, do you think?" Titania frowned. "She's got him so glamoured I don't think he knows much of anything." She waved a hand and her castle changed from the green of a spring sapling to the yellow-white of old ivory. "This is all some kind of horrible mistake." "Obviously," said Oberon. "It can't be a peace offering, not from her, not while she's still enslaved to the Black Diamond." He returned his arrow to its quarrel. "So what are you going to do?" "What else can I do?" asked Titania. "I'm going to attend the wedding."
sciborg2 06-03-07, 02:02 AM	Rip, tell me there's more...
aushlo 06-03-07, 02:55 AM	Someone mentioned the Eladrin above. There was a great bit in a Dragon, a while back, in an article about Dagon which says that the Eladrin were the ones that descended into the proto-Abyss and hunted the Obyriths to near extinction. A shining, grim hunting party of Eladrin knights descending into impenetrable gloom to slay some of the original terrors of the planes is a fantastic visual, for me at least.
ripvanwormer 06-04-07, 09:54 PM	The eladrins have nothing nothing nothing nothing whatsoever to do with fey. They don't even look alike, except to the Clueless. The eladrins are celestials, angelic beings of good incarnate. The fey are tricksy, earthy, as often malignant as helpful. The fey, the faerie folk, as I see them, they're "the children of the children of Time," as John Crowley put it in Little, Big, the grandchildren of Father Time and Mother Earth, the fundamental forces who define the Material Plane. But they aren't really native to the Material, no - they're more like midwives who attended its birth and its christening, offering gifts as the fates did at the birth of Sleeping Beauty, rewarding the still-forming, still-cooling earth with this virtue or that one, those who failed to be invited - the Queen of Air and Darkness - cursing the world instead. If you believe the legend of the leShay (echoed by a similar one in the 0D&D book Tall Tales of the Wee Folk), the fey are actually from a previous multiverse, one now destroyed. They're not limited to the Material Plane by any means - they infest Arborea, apparently related by blood and marriage to the gods there, reigning over mountains, forests, and streams as petty godlings themselves - they guarded the infant Zeus, clashing their shields to muffle his infant cries from the ears of Cronus; they fled lustful Apollo and Pan, transforming into reeds to escape them; the oreads guard the slopes of Mount Olympus and the asrai swim in the deep waters of the River Oceanus; the fey have numerous demiplanes, too, shadow worlds that surround the Material Plane like thick cloaks. And, of course, there's the Unseelie Court in Pandemonium and the Seelie Court, wandering the more seelie planes of chaos.
sciborg2 06-05-07, 04:39 PM	Rip, can those old Creature Crucibles be bought? Edit: Yes they can from Paizo... I really wish we could get more info on the LeShay
aushlo 06-05-07, 08:55 PM	The eladrins have nothing nothing nothing nothing whatsoever to do with fey. They don't even look alike, except to the Clueless. The eladrins are celestials, angelic beings of good incarnate. The fey are tricksy, earthy, as often malignant as helpful. The fey, the faerie folk, as I see them, they're "the children of the children of Time," as John Crowley put it in Little, Big, the grandchildren of Father Time and Mother Earth, the fundamental forces who define the Material Plane. But they aren't really native to the Material, no - they're more like midwives who attended its birth and its christening, offering gifts as the fates did at the birth of Sleeping Beauty, rewarding the still-forming, still-cooling earth with this virtue or that one, those who failed to be invited - the Queen of Air and Darkness - cursing the world instead. If you believe the legend of the leShay (echoed by a similar one in the 0D&D book Tall Tales of the Wee Folk), the fey are actually from a previous multiverse, one now destroyed. They're not limited to the Material Plane by any means - they infest Arborea, apparently related by blood and marriage to the gods there, reigning over mountains, forests, and streams as petty godlings themselves - they guarded the infant Zeus, clashing their shields to muffle his infant cries from the ears of Cronus; they fled lustful Apollo and Pan, transforming into reeds to escape them; the oreads guard the slopes of Mount Olympus and the asrai swim in the deep waters of the River Oceanus; the fey have numerous demiplanes, too, shadow worlds that surround the Material Plane like thick cloaks. And, of course, there's the Unseelie Court in Pandemonium and the Seelie Court, wandering the more seelie planes of chaos. But their queen is called the Faerie Queen, no? I've always thought of Eladrin as sort of Celestial Fey/Elves, although it's made clear that they get on with but are separate from both the Elven and Greek pantheons. I base the comparison on the number of times the book (PS MCII) mentions their resemblance to Elves and Sprites (the Coure). Heck, the Coure gatherings are called faerie circles or faerie courts. They're also vulnerable to cold iron, a somewhat common thing in fey myth. Some would seem to be modeled in some ways on the Sidhe of legend, at least in appearance and demeanor. Canon or no, that's where I'd place them. Frankly, although I love all the Planescape stuff, the glut of books, disagreements between editions, etc. make me pretty much not care about the official version. Planar fae, says I. Just not of that creature type.
aushlo 06-05-07, 08:55 PM	Oh, and the Tulani are called Faerie lords. Splitting hairs.
ripvanwormer 06-05-07, 09:21 PM	I've always thought of Eladrin as sort of Celestial Fey/Elves We don't need celestial fey or elves, though - D&D has a glut of fairy folk. What we need is a race that personifies chaotic good, as the demons personify chaotic evil and the archons personify lawful good. Connecting eladrins to fey or elves is not just a waste, it's bad for chaotic good. Eladrins, or whatever race you use to represent that alignment, need to be flexible enough to represent all forms of benevolent chaos, not just the elfy/faerie kind. They need to be beings that chaotic good dragons, dwarves, insects, constructs, and aberrations can look to as easily as elves can. They don't have to be the only chaotic celestial race, any more than tanar'ri are the only chaotic fiendish race - and they aren't, there are also asuras and chaotic aasimon, to name two - but as the race that more than any other represents Arborea, they need to be more than just elves and sprites. In fact, I'd venture to say that "celestial fey" is a contradiction in terms. If you make them all goody-two-shoes, they aren't anything like the faerie legends that I like. Fey need to be ambiguous, mercurial, alien, slightly sinister even at their best. Eladrins are celestials. They're whimsical, passionate, living secrets, sentient whispers, weavers, raptures, guerrilla warriors against injustice and despotism. They can be fascinating, but the amount of interest I have in them is directly proportional to the amount of distinction I make between them and the fey. They should be as varied as tanar'ri, with no more relationship to elves than tanar'ri have to drow (and, personally, I'd give them much less connection than that). the glut of books, disagreements between editions, etc. make me pretty much not care about the official version. Oh, likewise. There's no doubt that eladrins are inspired by faerie types; I just think that's a terribly limiting way to look at them - not just limiting, but distorting. They can be so much more, so much more interesting. There's a gaping chaotic good-shaped hole in the cosmology, and either the eladrins can fill it or they can be yet another one of the umpteen-million elf-shaped things the game already has (elves, nymphs, leShay, kender, sprites, snooore...). Anyway, I tend to ignore eladrin titles that have "faerie" in their names, and as for cold iron, tanar'ri are vulnerable to it as well.
aushlo 06-05-07, 10:34 PM	I can see your point, the elfy/faerie bit is sort of putting them all in the same basket. I think in my head, they're sort of the celestial prototype that led to the elves perhaps, created perhaps by the Chaos powers that sympathised more strongly with Good (I base this on the Obyrith bit. I still think it's a gorgeous idea). Sort of like the Angelic hosts in Judeo-Christian belief were the precursor to humanity.
sciborg2 06-05-07, 11:14 PM	I used to think of the eladrin as the ancestors of the fey...or perhaps just certain fey. I'm not sure fey have a common origin actually seeing as how they are more a class of spirits in some sense...
aushlo 06-06-07, 12:54 AM	I personally like to play up my outsiders as very alien and otherworldly, creepy even (this includes celestials in my book). There's no game effect per se, but I usually try to communicate the otherworldliness thru description. I see the Eladrin as being barely contained madness, but they're... probably... on the side of Good. For now. Like a harnessed flame.
Red Dragon 06-06-07, 01:19 PM	IMC, the feys' role is really hard to exactly pin down. They have a Summer Court interested in creating a world of rampant, undying growth for eternity and a Winter Court interested in creating a world of barren, frozen, near-lifeless tundra, but both know that if they win, they basically destroy the world; Thus, the war between them is never-ending. Both courts are CN, but they are often seen by mortals as Good and Evil, respectively. However, they're also both the players in and genesis of fairy and folk tales, have a big set of supersitions surrounding them (Milk left out for the brownies is barely the start of it), they fulfill a variety of 'surgical' roles for the world (Notably 'undead killers', 'water source protectors', and 'excess animal removers'), and finally get on with their own society and life. They really don't care much for the gods, are (Very) loosely tied with the druidic custom at large, and run the gamut of personalities and roles otherwise. In other words, at least IMC, the fey are the fey; They're unique. ;)
sciborg2 06-06-07, 05:32 PM	Red Dragon, I like the niche you've set for you fey (and for me spirits in general). It gives them a purpose in the world without making gods obsolete. Kudos!
Red Dragon 06-07-07, 10:21 PM	:blush: Thank you.