Theological Dilemma [Archive] - Wizards Community

Theological Dilemma [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
JollyRotten
05-26-07, 09:28 PM Your a true Neutral Adventurer

You wind up in Baator, a portal opens to Celestia, you dive though but..........

It snaps shut as you are half way though......

what happens next???
Millenia
05-26-07, 09:46 PM It's... not really theological... >>a Though I think it'd think the person would just be bisected and die soon after... *Shrugs*
ripvanwormer
05-26-07, 09:49 PM Portals don't work that way. As soon as you touch them, you appear on the other side. There's no "halfway through."
JollyRotten
05-26-07, 10:06 PM Ok if they are cut in two do they go to heaven or hell or a neutral place (what about the body parts) hell easy heaven severed limbs??, or are they sucked one way or the other,

Oh and for this question please pretend portals do work this way;)

And these are planes of existence not places they exist in tandem of one another ie you can enter any plane from any part of the universe, so you may not be cut in half
Millennium
05-26-07, 10:17 PM Honestly, there are several ways to go with this:
As soon as any part of you is in the portal, you instantly appear in the other side. In this case, you're in Celestia just before the portal closes, so there's no effect.
You don't show up on the other side until you're all the way through the portal. In this case, you're shunted back to Baator.
The portal functions like an ordinary doorway, and so you're cut in half when the portal closes. In this case, your soul goes to its normal afterlife.
Dunamin
05-27-07, 04:56 AM Ok if they are cut in two do they go to heaven or hell or a neutral place (what about the body parts) hell easy heaven severed limbs??, or are they sucked one way or the other,

Oh and for this question please pretend portals do work this way;)

And these are planes of existence not places they exist in tandem of one another ie you can enter any plane from any part of the universe, so you may not be cut in half
It's a rather silly question, but I'll give it a shot. If portals did work that way (which they don't), our unlucky True Neutral character would die, and his soul would go to the Outlands, as this is the plane matching his alignment.
What happens to his body parts? The same thing that happens to all severed body parts: they lie around and rot, whereever they happen to have fallen off.
mythSSK
05-27-07, 06:17 AM Portals don't work that way. As soon as you touch them, you appear on the other side. There's no "halfway through."Are you sure? I thought I remembered reading about a Sigil NPC who was half a person who had been split in two in this manner, and ech half was simultaneously aware of what was happening the other half. Or something. I thought he was in one of the 2e books, but he might've been a homebrew NPC. Possibly from Planewalker.com... Eh. Oh well. I liked the idea of him.
ripvanwormer
05-27-07, 01:49 PM Are you sure? I thought I remembered reading about a Sigil NPC who was half a person who had been split in two in this manner, and ech half was simultaneously aware of what was happening the other half.

Yeah, that's Leyruss Arn, from Uncaged: Faces of Sigil. And I like the idea of him, too.

Looking through The Planewalker's Handbook, portals did work that way in 2e. They don't work that way in 3e, though (my source here is The Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting: "Creatures who touch or pass through the area of the portal are instantly teleported to the locale the portal's builder has specified... It is not possible to poke one's head through a portal to see what's on the other side.").

Sure, pick whatever way you like better. I had forgotten about Leyruss Arn.
mythSSK
05-28-07, 04:52 AM Sigh. I wish I was able to pick up actual copies of all the old 2e planescape books. I have all the pdf's, but it's just not the same. Sucks to have only gotten into the hobby when 3e was starting up and not knowing about all these great books that came out beforehand until it was far too late to find them any more.
sciborg2
05-28-07, 12:50 PM You could try ebay if you want to spend more than 4 times their worth.
Theskippingman
05-28-07, 06:06 PM There's always the new free planewalker site, where these old themes are getting re-converted to 3.5e rules all the time. Or community.dicefreaks.com if you're seeking non-canonical excellence.

Theskippingman
Phantom Llama
05-28-07, 07:29 PM DF is down right now though. Asmodeus is trying to suppress the information.
ArcTan
05-28-07, 11:05 PM Ring gates do still work this way.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
JollyRotten 05-26-07, 09:28 PM	Your a true Neutral Adventurer You wind up in Baator, a portal opens to Celestia, you dive though but.......... It snaps shut as you are half way though...... what happens next???
Millenia 05-26-07, 09:46 PM	It's... not really theological... >>a Though I think it'd think the person would just be bisected and die soon after... Shrugs
ripvanwormer 05-26-07, 09:49 PM	Portals don't work that way. As soon as you touch them, you appear on the other side. There's no "halfway through."
JollyRotten 05-26-07, 10:06 PM	Ok if they are cut in two do they go to heaven or hell or a neutral place (what about the body parts) hell easy heaven severed limbs??, or are they sucked one way or the other, Oh and for this question please pretend portals do work this way;) And these are planes of existence not places they exist in tandem of one another ie you can enter any plane from any part of the universe, so you may not be cut in half
Millennium 05-26-07, 10:17 PM	Honestly, there are several ways to go with this: As soon as any part of you is in the portal, you instantly appear in the other side. In this case, you're in Celestia just before the portal closes, so there's no effect. You don't show up on the other side until you're all the way through the portal. In this case, you're shunted back to Baator. The portal functions like an ordinary doorway, and so you're cut in half when the portal closes. In this case, your soul goes to its normal afterlife.
Dunamin 05-27-07, 04:56 AM	Ok if they are cut in two do they go to heaven or hell or a neutral place (what about the body parts) hell easy heaven severed limbs??, or are they sucked one way or the other, Oh and for this question please pretend portals do work this way;) And these are planes of existence not places they exist in tandem of one another ie you can enter any plane from any part of the universe, so you may not be cut in half It's a rather silly question, but I'll give it a shot. If portals did work that way (which they don't), our unlucky True Neutral character would die, and his soul would go to the Outlands, as this is the plane matching his alignment. What happens to his body parts? The same thing that happens to all severed body parts: they lie around and rot, whereever they happen to have fallen off.
mythSSK 05-27-07, 06:17 AM	Portals don't work that way. As soon as you touch them, you appear on the other side. There's no "halfway through."Are you sure? I thought I remembered reading about a Sigil NPC who was half a person who had been split in two in this manner, and ech half was simultaneously aware of what was happening the other half. Or something. I thought he was in one of the 2e books, but he might've been a homebrew NPC. Possibly from Planewalker.com... Eh. Oh well. I liked the idea of him.
ripvanwormer 05-27-07, 01:49 PM	Are you sure? I thought I remembered reading about a Sigil NPC who was half a person who had been split in two in this manner, and ech half was simultaneously aware of what was happening the other half. Yeah, that's Leyruss Arn, from Uncaged: Faces of Sigil. And I like the idea of him, too. Looking through The Planewalker's Handbook, portals did work that way in 2e. They don't work that way in 3e, though (my source here is The Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting: "Creatures who touch or pass through the area of the portal are instantly teleported to the locale the portal's builder has specified... It is not possible to poke one's head through a portal to see what's on the other side."). Sure, pick whatever way you like better. I had forgotten about Leyruss Arn.
mythSSK 05-28-07, 04:52 AM	Sigh. I wish I was able to pick up actual copies of all the old 2e planescape books. I have all the pdf's, but it's just not the same. Sucks to have only gotten into the hobby when 3e was starting up and not knowing about all these great books that came out beforehand until it was far too late to find them any more.
sciborg2 05-28-07, 12:50 PM	You could try ebay if you want to spend more than 4 times their worth.
Theskippingman 05-28-07, 06:06 PM	There's always the new free planewalker site, where these old themes are getting re-converted to 3.5e rules all the time. Or community.dicefreaks.com if you're seeking non-canonical excellence. Theskippingman
Phantom Llama 05-28-07, 07:29 PM	DF is down right now though. Asmodeus is trying to suppress the information.
ArcTan 05-28-07, 11:05 PM	Ring gates do still work this way.