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kronas
03-01-07, 08:33 PM I am making a world, and want to include some gods. I don't know which ones to include, I am thinking that I should include a god that is the creator of a different race. Then like a god of the different elements, like fire god, ice god, etc. What other types of gods should I include? Death? High Lord of Evil? What?
RavenGraygem
03-01-07, 10:27 PM I definitely suggest finding a copy of Deities and Demigods, if you don't already have it. It has quite a bit of useful advice on the subject.

But since I'm guessing that you either don't have it or can't get easy/immediate access to a copy, here goes:

1 Each particular race should have at least one racial deity. You don't need to give each subrace its own deity unless it's fairly different from the rest (for example, dark elves have Lolth, and the rest have Corellon whatever-his-name-is).

2 You should a deity for each aligment component; lawful, chaotic, neutral, good, and evil. You can often mix and match here, like a chaotic good or lawful evil deity. Of course, each deity should have the domains that match its aligment component(s).

3 A deity for each of the four elements.

4 At least one deity for each of the following: Magic, Death (and possibly undeath), War, Knowledge, Creation (smithing and the like), and Nature.

Of course, you can mix and match these. For example, one deity could be in charge of Earth, Nature, and Good. Another could be in charge of Law, War, and Fire.

Use the deities given in the PHB as examples of this.

Hope that helps somewhat.
alchemyprime
03-01-07, 11:23 PM The most important bit: Every character should have at least 1 god to follow. Let's use character types as an example.

Elves: Elves would need a racial deity. It should be CG or NG. Maybe CN, but that might be stretching it. He should have a little combat, magic and nature mixed until smooth.

Dwarves: Dwarves should have a LG or LN deity of forge, war and earth. Simple.

Halflings: Halflings can either have a LG deity of valor and honor, a NG deity of helping everyone, or a N deity of looking out for #1 and diplomacy. Let's make 2: the LG and the N.

Half-orcs: A war-ish deity is best, with a Chaotic alignment. CN and CE are good choices.

Gnomes: Gnomes need to be inventive and tricky. A deity of artifice, magic, knowledge and trickery is best. Also, good should be in his alignment.

Half-elves: treat as elves or humans.

Martial characters: This one is interesting, because we have a Lawful good only class (paladin), a Non-lawful only class (barbarian), and two any alignment classes (ranger and fighter). Let's make a LG deity of Honor and Valor, a CN deity of Beasts and fury and a NE deity of murder and slaughter, but also control.

Arcane characters: A N deity of knowledge fits very well here. Let us also include a NG deity of helping with magic, and a NE deity of necromancy and harmful magics.

Rogues: This also includes bards. Let's use a LE deity, a NG deity, and a CN deity. The LE one should be of assassins, expertise, and discipline. The NG should be a Robin Hood-esque person. He'll be a deity of theivery and goodwill. The CN should be a deity of Narcisism and Good Times.

Divine characters: Clerics are easy. They choose anyone. Druids are harder. Let's make a deity of nature that's N. Also, a NE deity of beasts and dinosaurs, and a CG deity of weather and hunting. This allows for all druids, and also for all rangers except LG to have a nature deity. Let's make LG rangers more paladinic.

Regular Joes: The NPCs, the everyman. Why would he follow our deity of theives, when he can follow a deity of healing or love? So, we want a NG healing deity of the hearth, a CG love deity who is also the moon, a LG community deity who is also the sun, a LN war deity, a N deity of money, a CN deity of harvest. We also want a deity of death, so let's make three N ones.
The Hunter: He finds those who are about to die. His clerics will tend more to NE, as he takes up those who die painfully.
The Maiden: She helps lead you to the Buaracracy. Her clergy is based more on NG than N, but the occasional NE gets in. Lets have all but her NE clergy turn undead, instead of rebuke.
The Judge: His clergy is more LN, but also tends to have CN members. Lets make him also a deity of Fire and Water. Those who were evil will be "fired" before being sent off, and the good will be annointed. Those who are neither will just be sent on their way.

So far, the pantheon looks like this:
Elf God: CG, Chaos, Magic, Strength, Good
Dwarf God: LG, Law, Good, War, Earth
Gnome God: NG, Good, Trickery, Knowledge, Magic
Halfling God: N, Trickery, Darkness, Charm, Luck, Knowledge
Halfling Goddess: LG, Law, Good, Luck, Sun
Orc God: CN, Chaos, Destruction, War, Strength
Valor God: LG, Law, Good, Strength War
Beast God: CN, Chaos, Passion, Animal, Strength
Murder God: NE, Evil, Strength, Destruction, Luck
Knowledge God: N, Knowledge, Magic, Trickery (okay, so it's Boccob.)
Good Magic God: NG, Good, Magic, Healing
Evil Magic God: NE, Evil, Magic, Destruction
Assassin God: LE, Law, Evil, Luck
Theives God: NG, Good, Luck, Trickery
Good-Times God: CN, Chaos, Luck, Passion
Nature God: N, Fire, Water, Air, Earth, Animal, Plant (Obad-Hai)
Dinosaur God: NE, Evil, Destruction, Animal
Weather God: CG, Chaos, Good, Air
Sun God:LG, Community, Sun, Law, Good
Hearth Goddess: NG, Good, Fire, Healing (odd combo)
Love Goddess: CG, Passion, Chaos, Good, Luck
War God: LN, Law, War, Knowledge
Money Goddess: N, Luck, Trickery, Earth
Harvest Goddess: CN, Chaos, Plant, Earth
The Maiden: N, Death, Healing, Repose
The Hunter: N, Darkness, Death, Strength
The Judge: N, Death, Fire, Water

Now we name. Let's use simple names.
Elf God: ???
Dwarf God: Allfather (I know Odin is called this, but still...)
Gnome God: The Trickster
Halfling God: ???
Halfling Goddess: ???
Orc God: ???
Valor God: Paladin King
Beast God: Duke of Beasts
Murder God: The Butcher of Men
Knowledge God: The First Mage
Good Magic Goddess: Healing Mother
Evil Magic God: Darkness Kings
Assassin God: The Assassin Lord
Theives God: The Valiant Thief
Good-Times God: The Great Bard
Nature God: World Father
Dinosaur God: Lizard King
Weather God: Cloud Master
Sun God: The Sun Guide
Hearth Goddess: The Protector
Love Goddess: The Queen of Pleasure
War God: The General of the Cosmos
Money Goddess: The Merchant Queen
Harvest Goddess: The Mistress of Plants
The Maiden: Already named.
The Hunter: Already named
The Judge: Already named.

Now to make it more complex. Real names.
Elf God: Riltai
Dwarf God: Allfather: Nildald
Gnome God: The Trickster: Duech
Halfling God: Ightar
Halfling Goddess: Tanfny
Orc God: Sowor
Valor God: Paladin King: Taikel
Beast God: Duke of Beasts: Cruer
Murder God: The Butcher of Men: Awnusk
Knowledge God: The First Mage: Siris
Good Magic Goddess: Healing Mother: Liale
Evil Magic God: Darkness Kings: Taint
Assassin God: The Assassin Lord: Sahzamu
Theives God: The Valiant Thief: Asheb
Good-Times God: The Great Bard: Kinril
Nature God: World Father: Eenu
Dinosaur God: Lizard King: Esamu
Weather God: Cloud Master: Hond
Sun God: The Sun Guide: Osth
Hearth Goddess: The Protector: Rynl
Love Goddess: The Queen of Pleasure: Eani
War God: The General of the Cosmos: Adi
Money Goddess: The Merchant Queen:Bank
Harvest Goddess: The Mistress of Plants: Shan
The Maiden: Already named.
The Hunter: Already named
The Judge: Already named.

And finally, favoured weapons...
Riltai: Longsword
Nildald: Dwarven Waraxe
Duech: Rapier
Ightar: Dagger
Tanfny: Spear
Sowor: Glaive
Taikel: Longsword
Cruer: Greataxe
Awnusk: Scythe
Siris: Quarterstaff
Liale: Club
Taint: Dagger
Sahzamu: Shortsword
Asheb: Crossbow (any)
Kinril: Rapier
Eenu: Scythe
Esamu: Greatsword
Hond: Scimitar
Osth: Quarterstaff
Rynl: Falchion
Eani: Flail
Adi: Bastard Sword
Bank: Shuriken
Shan: Sickle
The Maiden: Sap
The Hunter: Longbow
The Judge: Warhammer

There you go. A full pantheon, in twenty minutes.
navar100
03-02-07, 02:06 AM Make a racial god for humans. There's never a racial god for humans. Not even Wastri, since he likes amphibians too.
sciborg2
03-02-07, 02:20 AM Deities and Demigods is useful, but so is a look at Godchecker (http://www.godchecker.com/)and SacredTexts (http://www.sacred-texts.com/index.htm). I spent a lot of time on these sites when I was trying to flesh out pantheons for a lot mythologies. Also look at the Malazan (https://starvalddemelain.pbwiki.com/Ascendants%20and%20Religion)world and its interesting notion of Houses (House Light/Dark/Death/Life/etc)

Sadly sacredtexts may go offline soon....thankfully I bought a CD - For the major texts of about every faith in human history one of the better uses of $50...

Check out the FAQ (its in the board stick) there were lots of write ups of lots of gods.
Witch
03-02-07, 02:23 AM Make a racial god for humans. There's never a racial god for humans. Not even Wastri, since he likes amphibians too.

They've got Zarus. Okay, that's not a compliment, but they do have him.

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kronas 03-01-07, 08:33 PM	I am making a world, and want to include some gods. I don't know which ones to include, I am thinking that I should include a god that is the creator of a different race. Then like a god of the different elements, like fire god, ice god, etc. What other types of gods should I include? Death? High Lord of Evil? What?
RavenGraygem 03-01-07, 10:27 PM	I definitely suggest finding a copy of Deities and Demigods, if you don't already have it. It has quite a bit of useful advice on the subject. But since I'm guessing that you either don't have it or can't get easy/immediate access to a copy, here goes: 1 Each particular race should have at least one racial deity. You don't need to give each subrace its own deity unless it's fairly different from the rest (for example, dark elves have Lolth, and the rest have Corellon whatever-his-name-is). 2 You should a deity for each aligment component; lawful, chaotic, neutral, good, and evil. You can often mix and match here, like a chaotic good or lawful evil deity. Of course, each deity should have the domains that match its aligment component(s). 3 A deity for each of the four elements. 4 At least one deity for each of the following: Magic, Death (and possibly undeath), War, Knowledge, Creation (smithing and the like), and Nature. Of course, you can mix and match these. For example, one deity could be in charge of Earth, Nature, and Good. Another could be in charge of Law, War, and Fire. Use the deities given in the PHB as examples of this. Hope that helps somewhat.
alchemyprime 03-01-07, 11:23 PM	The most important bit: Every character should have at least 1 god to follow. Let's use character types as an example. Elves: Elves would need a racial deity. It should be CG or NG. Maybe CN, but that might be stretching it. He should have a little combat, magic and nature mixed until smooth. Dwarves: Dwarves should have a LG or LN deity of forge, war and earth. Simple. Halflings: Halflings can either have a LG deity of valor and honor, a NG deity of helping everyone, or a N deity of looking out for #1 and diplomacy. Let's make 2: the LG and the N. Half-orcs: A war-ish deity is best, with a Chaotic alignment. CN and CE are good choices. Gnomes: Gnomes need to be inventive and tricky. A deity of artifice, magic, knowledge and trickery is best. Also, good should be in his alignment. Half-elves: treat as elves or humans. Martial characters: This one is interesting, because we have a Lawful good only class (paladin), a Non-lawful only class (barbarian), and two any alignment classes (ranger and fighter). Let's make a LG deity of Honor and Valor, a CN deity of Beasts and fury and a NE deity of murder and slaughter, but also control. Arcane characters: A N deity of knowledge fits very well here. Let us also include a NG deity of helping with magic, and a NE deity of necromancy and harmful magics. Rogues: This also includes bards. Let's use a LE deity, a NG deity, and a CN deity. The LE one should be of assassins, expertise, and discipline. The NG should be a Robin Hood-esque person. He'll be a deity of theivery and goodwill. The CN should be a deity of Narcisism and Good Times. Divine characters: Clerics are easy. They choose anyone. Druids are harder. Let's make a deity of nature that's N. Also, a NE deity of beasts and dinosaurs, and a CG deity of weather and hunting. This allows for all druids, and also for all rangers except LG to have a nature deity. Let's make LG rangers more paladinic. Regular Joes: The NPCs, the everyman. Why would he follow our deity of theives, when he can follow a deity of healing or love? So, we want a NG healing deity of the hearth, a CG love deity who is also the moon, a LG community deity who is also the sun, a LN war deity, a N deity of money, a CN deity of harvest. We also want a deity of death, so let's make three N ones. The Hunter: He finds those who are about to die. His clerics will tend more to NE, as he takes up those who die painfully. The Maiden: She helps lead you to the Buaracracy. Her clergy is based more on NG than N, but the occasional NE gets in. Lets have all but her NE clergy turn undead, instead of rebuke. The Judge: His clergy is more LN, but also tends to have CN members. Lets make him also a deity of Fire and Water. Those who were evil will be "fired" before being sent off, and the good will be annointed. Those who are neither will just be sent on their way. So far, the pantheon looks like this: Elf God: CG, Chaos, Magic, Strength, Good Dwarf God: LG, Law, Good, War, Earth Gnome God: NG, Good, Trickery, Knowledge, Magic Halfling God: N, Trickery, Darkness, Charm, Luck, Knowledge Halfling Goddess: LG, Law, Good, Luck, Sun Orc God: CN, Chaos, Destruction, War, Strength Valor God: LG, Law, Good, Strength War Beast God: CN, Chaos, Passion, Animal, Strength Murder God: NE, Evil, Strength, Destruction, Luck Knowledge God: N, Knowledge, Magic, Trickery (okay, so it's Boccob.) Good Magic God: NG, Good, Magic, Healing Evil Magic God: NE, Evil, Magic, Destruction Assassin God: LE, Law, Evil, Luck Theives God: NG, Good, Luck, Trickery Good-Times God: CN, Chaos, Luck, Passion Nature God: N, Fire, Water, Air, Earth, Animal, Plant (Obad-Hai) Dinosaur God: NE, Evil, Destruction, Animal Weather God: CG, Chaos, Good, Air Sun God:LG, Community, Sun, Law, Good Hearth Goddess: NG, Good, Fire, Healing (odd combo) Love Goddess: CG, Passion, Chaos, Good, Luck War God: LN, Law, War, Knowledge Money Goddess: N, Luck, Trickery, Earth Harvest Goddess: CN, Chaos, Plant, Earth The Maiden: N, Death, Healing, Repose The Hunter: N, Darkness, Death, Strength The Judge: N, Death, Fire, Water Now we name. Let's use simple names. Elf God: ??? Dwarf God: Allfather (I know Odin is called this, but still...) Gnome God: The Trickster Halfling God: ??? Halfling Goddess: ??? Orc God: ??? Valor God: Paladin King Beast God: Duke of Beasts Murder God: The Butcher of Men Knowledge God: The First Mage Good Magic Goddess: Healing Mother Evil Magic God: Darkness Kings Assassin God: The Assassin Lord Theives God: The Valiant Thief Good-Times God: The Great Bard Nature God: World Father Dinosaur God: Lizard King Weather God: Cloud Master Sun God: The Sun Guide Hearth Goddess: The Protector Love Goddess: The Queen of Pleasure War God: The General of the Cosmos Money Goddess: The Merchant Queen Harvest Goddess: The Mistress of Plants The Maiden: Already named. The Hunter: Already named The Judge: Already named. Now to make it more complex. Real names. Elf God: Riltai Dwarf God: Allfather: Nildald Gnome God: The Trickster: Duech Halfling God: Ightar Halfling Goddess: Tanfny Orc God: Sowor Valor God: Paladin King: Taikel Beast God: Duke of Beasts: Cruer Murder God: The Butcher of Men: Awnusk Knowledge God: The First Mage: Siris Good Magic Goddess: Healing Mother: Liale Evil Magic God: Darkness Kings: Taint Assassin God: The Assassin Lord: Sahzamu Theives God: The Valiant Thief: Asheb Good-Times God: The Great Bard: Kinril Nature God: World Father: Eenu Dinosaur God: Lizard King: Esamu Weather God: Cloud Master: Hond Sun God: The Sun Guide: Osth Hearth Goddess: The Protector: Rynl Love Goddess: The Queen of Pleasure: Eani War God: The General of the Cosmos: Adi Money Goddess: The Merchant Queen:Bank Harvest Goddess: The Mistress of Plants: Shan The Maiden: Already named. The Hunter: Already named The Judge: Already named. And finally, favoured weapons... Riltai: Longsword Nildald: Dwarven Waraxe Duech: Rapier Ightar: Dagger Tanfny: Spear Sowor: Glaive Taikel: Longsword Cruer: Greataxe Awnusk: Scythe Siris: Quarterstaff Liale: Club Taint: Dagger Sahzamu: Shortsword Asheb: Crossbow (any) Kinril: Rapier Eenu: Scythe Esamu: Greatsword Hond: Scimitar Osth: Quarterstaff Rynl: Falchion Eani: Flail Adi: Bastard Sword Bank: Shuriken Shan: Sickle The Maiden: Sap The Hunter: Longbow The Judge: Warhammer There you go. A full pantheon, in twenty minutes.
navar100 03-02-07, 02:06 AM	Make a racial god for humans. There's never a racial god for humans. Not even Wastri, since he likes amphibians too.
sciborg2 03-02-07, 02:20 AM	Deities and Demigods is useful, but so is a look at Godchecker (http://www.godchecker.com/)and SacredTexts (http://www.sacred-texts.com/index.htm). I spent a lot of time on these sites when I was trying to flesh out pantheons for a lot mythologies. Also look at the Malazan (https://starvalddemelain.pbwiki.com/Ascendants%20and%20Religion)world and its interesting notion of Houses (House Light/Dark/Death/Life/etc) Sadly sacredtexts may go offline soon....thankfully I bought a CD - For the major texts of about every faith in human history one of the better uses of $50... Check out the FAQ (its in the board stick) there were lots of write ups of lots of gods.
Witch 03-02-07, 02:23 AM	Make a racial god for humans. There's never a racial god for humans. Not even Wastri, since he likes amphibians too. They've got Zarus. Okay, that's not a compliment, but they do have him.